About the Episode
If you fit yourself to fit in another person’s box, you are doing it all wrong. You can dream as big as you want, and those dreams don’t have to have limits. Trust yourself, and listen to yourself, you can DO IT.
Kris Bradley, CEO of Produce Like a Boss and Brilliant Badass, is a creative force who has transformed her life from a homeless high school dropout & starving artist to a 7 figure entrepreneur. With her unique combination of skills as a strategist, entrepreneur, coach, and musician, she inspires and empowers ambitious creatives to turn their passions into successful businesses. Through her guidance and support, Kris helps creative entrepreneurs chase their dreams fearlessly and create a life of financial freedom and personal fulfillment. Whether you’re an artist, musician, or entrepreneur, she is dedicated to shining a light on your potential and helping you transform your passion into a thriving and profitable business.
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- Your own choices can affect everything
- Don’t “edit” yourself for another person’s dreams
- Always listen to what you’re telling yourself
- Don’t question what you’re being told
Hey, what’s shakin’, hey, I’m Rick Jordan. Today we’re going all in. I’ve got an amazing guest today who’s been on before and you have to go back to listen to the first episode after you share this went out about 18 times with 18 people you know, and listen to how we got to know each other, but today is carrying on with the conversation, a new conversation of how life can get flipped upside down, by your own choice, by your own decision, which is for the better, and how that leads to everything else, and all your success and all your personal growth and all the development that you’ve ever wanted is right on the other side of that choice. So Chris Bradley, what’s shakin’, welcome back.
Hey, hey, thanks for having me back. I’m so excited to be here.
Yeah, it’s, uh, we established like a little bit ago, which is funny because I don’t know if it’s actually going to come up. So I’m just gonna say we said like, because this is like, deeply personal to you, right? Like, is there anywhere you don’t want to go? And we came up with a safe word. What’s the safe word?
I needed you to say that because I don’t know if it’s gonna be said. It was just hilarious. Yep. I love it. All right. So we have our safe word that’s good for going forward. You don’t know if it’s going to be used. But that’s okay. I reached out to you because I saw your story on Instagram, you know, and I love following you because I love seeing where you’re going, and what you’re doing your content is frickin baller, too, as how you educate everyone. It’s just amazing. And some of the hilarious things I need everybody to know, Chris, are that the you that you’re putting out there on social is actually really you. It’s not a mask or anything like you’re letting people see in your heart? Has it always been that way?
Thank you so much for saying that. Because I feel like, you know, I’ve only really been showing up on social like this for the past few years. And there was a lot of safety behind doing that when I was just teaching because I found this comfort and like I know the strategy. I know, tactics, I know how to do XYZ. And that’s a kind of different part of the brain to execute. And it’s definitely like a safe place. And I love teaching, right? But there’s been some more recent stuff where I’m like, I just need to get out of that left brain, logical X plus Y equals Z, and move into like, what does my heart telling me to do? What does my soul telling me to do? And a lot of times, it’s a little nonsensical. So I just want to say thank you for the validation that it’s being well received by somebody because I’m like, should I be saying this right now? But I’m like, yep, the soul is telling me to do it. So I’m gonna go with it. You know,
that’s so awesome. Yeah. And I know this, because I mean, we met digitally a couple of years ago, but then it was like, a year and a half ago, we met in person at Funnel Hacking live. And I mean, I hope you had the same opinion about me, because it was like us. And it’s like, oh, my god, we’re here in person. We need to talk. We just hang out.
That’s so cool. So you started talking about your soul a little bit. And this is going back to, you know, putting it out there. This is why I reached out to you. And I’m like, can you come back on and talk about this? Because I don’t remember exactly what your story was, or if it was a post or whatever, but it was about you. Because you move from LA, right, which is you got your hat on. Love your frickin hat. You know, that’s like one of your trademark things. And then because I saw you two years in a row at Funnel Hacking Life, and the second year, I think your hair was not red anymore. I think it was brown. I think it was you who became an if I’m right. And you had no. That’s it? Yes. Okay. And I was like, there were like some big changes visibly to you, which usually, the visible changes on the outside are an indication of what’s going on on the inside.
Yeah, totally. Totally. It’s funny, because when I started the brand produce like a boss, I was like, always in a hat all the time. And then it kind of became a trademark by accident. But it was very authentic. Because when I was producing music every day, that’s my like, you know, get her done. I don’t have time to do my hair. I’m grinding, you know. And then after a couple of years of like living in the hat and going, Oh, we can’t make content unless I’m wearing my hat. I went, Wait for a second. There was a disconnect there where I was like, that’s not authentic. Like, I don’t wear the hat every day. I’m not producing music every day. I’m running a company, I’m doing these other things. And I want to do my hair. And I want to show my hair. You know my lady just like took the hat off. And a bunch of people was like, What happened to the ad? I’m like, Don’t worry, it still makes a comeback. It’s here right now. But yeah, I would say that you’re right, like the outside changes. Definitely. Mirroring a lot of the things that were happening internally as well. So
I got a secret for you. If you just wear the same stuff every single day as I do, nobody can notice. You can make all the changes inside you want to join. I know you wouldn’t.
I used to. I used to say I’m Steve. I’m Steve Jobs on my way through this, you know, and it was easier. I might maybe I might be making a comeback to the V neck and Me and Ellie had
that’s cool. I know it makes packing a lot easier with how much I travel. Oh my god. Just throw some shirts and yeah, so yeah, you went from LA to Phoenix? I think I know it was Arizona. What was it Phoenix?
Yeah, it was a Chandler.
It was Chandler. Okay. Yeah. That was That’s right around that’s like southeast of Phoenix, I think, isn’t it? I believe something like that. Yeah, I had a friend that lived there. And then they moved back to Chicago after they moved over there. It was like, why are you doing that? It’s so cold here. Something I’m seeing. But this is just a squirrel that I’m chasing. But in Phoenix. I know when I was there doing TV a couple of years ago. It’s like I walked outside in the middle of June. My eyes literally felt like they were melting. Yeah, it’s just I couldn’t understand it. I’m like, How can all the moisture being sucked out of my eyes in a millisecond, and yet also feel like they’re oozing out of my head at the same time, it was a new experience.
That’s no joke. It was my first and only summer in Arizona. And considering I thought I was going to be living there for the rest of my life. Let’s just say I’m very happy to say that I did one summer in Arizona, and probably will never have to do that again.
That’s awesome. You hit on a good point there. Because I mean, that’s following like the story here too. Because you moved thinking that one believing anyways, that that was you were going to be there for the rest of your life. You move for what?
Yeah, so I got engaged around April of last year. And then we got a house together in Arizona, like really shortly after. And all of it was like really good on paper. Do you know what I mean? Like, good looking guy, nice guy. His dream was to be in Arizona. And here I am an entrepreneur that can work from anywhere, wanting to make him happy and going, I can live anywhere, oh my God, look at how much bang we get for our buck. If we get a house in Arizona, you know, oh my gosh, that’s so much bigger. If we got that in LA, it would be like five times the size. So, you know, I did a lot of kind of editing what my plans, dreams, goals, and desires were like to kind of fit what he wanted, including the fact that he didn’t really like when I would talk about business. And the thing is, and you probably I’m sure know that like when you do what we do. It’s kind of for me, there’s no separation. It’s like I would say that my entire business is my art down to every email, I write social media posts, I make pieces of content I create, whether it’s a course a song, whatever it is, like, that’s my creation. That’s my creativity. So when I, you know, at the end of the day, you go, how was your day and I want to talk about all the cool shit I need. And you’re like, Oh, it’ll look when you talk about work. It was like there was this disconnect that was happening.
Outside of the fact that I just was like, going as soon as we got to Arizona, I realized I have, you know, been spoiled. I think by growing up in LA, there’s just so much creativity here naturally. I also lived in Nashville for five years. So lots creative energy there. And I had not lived in a city like that. So I kind of thought it was normal, that you just kind of buzz when you went around everywhere, you know. And then we got to Arizona, and I felt like for lack of a better word, just like a part of my creative soul had just died. Like it just went. It just went. It’s just kind of depleted. And nothing bad on Arizona. It’s beautiful. But everything is about chapters and stages. And so it became very evident to me that he wanted to slow down. He wanted to retire. This man would talk about golf more than I don’t even know anything about golf. And I’m you know, I’m here, I want to grow, I want to scale. You know, I’m wildly into personal development spirituality. I’m always doing something to grow and get better. And he’s wanting to kind of do the opposite. So here we have these two opposite energies in this house, and now I’m in Arizona. And you know, yeah, so
an age difference between you two, because you’re saying he wanted to retire?
Yeah, he’s not much. You know, he’s about five years older.
Oh, geez. And I’m talking like he was 65 or anything. That’s it. That’s it
It was really funny. Rick, when we first started dating on our second date, I remember after the first kiss, you know, we were hanging out and I remember going, Oh, this could really be something and so I said to him, I need you to know something about me. And he goes, Okay, and I said, I’m really driven like literally really passionate, really driven really in what I do. Like I’m always working on something kind of always planning to scheme to take over the world. You know, that’s, that’s me. I’m very motivated. And almost like I was trying to warn him and I remember he looked at me because he was an entrepreneur as well. And he said I will out entrepreneur this shit out of you. And he said it like he was poking fun. As I like I challenge you. And I went Yes, finally, you know. I’m sorry. I don’t know if I’m allowed to say that on the podcast. So we have might have to bleep that but okay, cool. All right. So so when he said that I thought, Oh, good, like we’re on the same page.
But you know, it became very But it as time went on, and I was, you know, maintaining that persistence and that drive that it just was like always like, Oh, why? Oh, he’s talking about work. Oh, you work too much. Oh, it was just kind of like these little dings all the time. So what I started to do, right, because I started to turn my light down, right? I started to go, oh, he can’t, he can’t handle it when I’m at 100. And I’m usually at 150. Let’s be real. I’m like, alternate down to 70, alternate down to 80. And it just started becoming like, how was your day? And I would just, oh, it was good. Because if I really said what I wanted to be, Oh, my God, I gotta show you this thing I made or this atom working out, or this, you know, this thing. I learned that in this book I read, it would just he would just shut down. He would shut down he would, you know, so. Yeah, I started to realize that I was dimming my light and any kind of sacrificing my dream for somebody else’s.
Yeah. That’s a good phrase to use, too. As you were saying that I was thinking of an I don’t know if you’ve ever heard Ed, my lead talk about the thermostat. And I love my lead. Yeah, he’s, he’s amazing. I was with him. in Miami Beach. When my company was approved by the SEC. Like I had a public company. It seemed like in a minute, right? Literally in a minute. I’m like, I don’t know what to do. But I told him, I was there with him. Like, you’re the first person I’m telling dude. And he’s like, that’s awesome. I mean, he’d like, teared up. It was cool. And he talks about the thermostat, where it’s like you can get around people in your life. And that thermostat, right will tend to trend downwards. Yeah. And you start to adjust to that comfortable temperature to where you just sit around and be like, okay, whatever it is, but then all of a sudden, you do have that moment, you know because if it’s ingrained in you like it is with you with me, you will have that moment to where you recognize it’s like, why am I so comfortable. I’m not used to this and but I felt like I was more me when I was in this other mode. So that’s like, then you have to turn that thermostat, you have to like crank that sucker all the way back up to where it’s on fire because you just moved it down to 70, the AC is on and everything but you were so much more alive when it was at 90. And doing everything you wanted to do go after everything you wanted to do, but then your environment changes or you allow people in and it’s people that have a lower thermostat setting is how he explains it, or people that have their dimmer set on a lower level of light.
Yeah, absolutely. And it’s so funny you say that because there’s this part of me going like I’m looking around, and I’m like, I got the rock. I got the man, you know, for all things being said, he’s all wonderful human, like, we just have very different wants and needs. So in no way. Anything that I say in my story, do I want it to like be like, I’m bashing another person? Like, some people are just
a little Yeah. And I’m not saying that for sure. But,
you know, so I’m thinking I got a really great guy because he is he loves me so much, so much that he kept saying things like, whenever I get stressed about work, he’s like, you know, you don’t have to worry about that. I’ll take care of any. You don’t even have to work if you don’t want to, you know, and I’m looking around. I’m like, I got a man, I got security for the first time in my life. I don’t know if you know this, but then on my own since age 15. So I’ve been in constant survival hustle. Like, you know, all of that was like, Oh, I don’t feel that anymore.
Together. When you Oh, yeah, yeah.
And, you know, the house was gorgeous. The dog and I were looking around the neighborhood, you know, it was more of a retirement, everything was slow and peaceful, and beautiful. And like you look, I look at the pictures of us. And even everyone, all of you guys are a power couple. You’re amazing. And I’m looking at all this on paper and going. Why is something not feel right? Yeah. So it’s like the week before Christmas. And we are about to go shopping for a Christmas tree and we’re having dinner. And he’s talking to me all about his work. And I’m all Yeah, okay. And I love when he talks about work, because then I’m getting there and kind of helping you and scheme. And that’s what I like to do, partner, even if I don’t know your job, because I want to help and just help you with what’s taking up space in your brain. I’m here to support you now. So we do that for about 30 minutes, and then I go,
Hey, can I tell you something about you know, I discovered? And he goes, Sure, but it’s kind of begrudgingly right? And I’m like, okay, so I was telling him kind of how I learned a new approach about presenting where, you know, I didn’t want to have to use slides as much and I wanted to do more stream of consciousness. It was more of like, it was like it didn’t just work. It was spiritual. It was like this channeling God’s energy and I was really excited and he’s spiritual. So I thought he would appreciate that. So what does he do? He starts to check out and I can tell it’s like he looks like he wants to punch himself in the face. It’s like I don’t even think he knew how just like uninterested he looked. And it was this was like not the first time it had happened. But it was there was a straw for me like you were saying like I all of a sudden I felt this need to just crank the thermostat back up to 90 and I’m like here I am walking around at 70% literally giving you the 70% version and you’re still telling me it’s too much. Basically when you’ll talk for two seconds. So I got up and I was like,
That’s it. This is the week of Christmas. We’re about to go shopping for a tree. And we met at a restaurant because we were at different places in Arizona. And he’s like, are we going to get a trace at Nam going home? The next day, I got up and said, I need to go to LA for a few days and just clear my head. And he was like, okay, and then we kind of started to get back into the argument about it. And basically, there are so many words were exchanged. And I said I need you to support me care about me, listen to me, and not check out when I talk. And he said I need you to not talk about business all the time. No one’s gonna want a relationship with your business. Ever. No one. It’s not abnormal, that I don’t want to hear this. Basically, men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. Women talk too many men don’t listen, why can’t you get a friend to listen, I give you everything else was kind of the consensus. And I went, okay. So I get in the car, and I’m driving. And I just start bawling. And I start talking to whatever you want to call it. I say, angels, God guides the universe, whatever you want to call it, I’m talking to a greater power. And I just use the word God for all of that. And I said, God, I need you to give me a sign because this doesn’t feel right. But it’s so unfathomable to me that I would leave this like having engaged like, we made a commitment if we have a house, like all the things on paper, the logic, great, it all adds. Like, there’s no way I’m leaving. And then I kind of like I said,
But what am I supposed to do? And I heard this very, like, soft knowing voice back that was like, You know what to do. I’ve been telling you what to do from the beginning, you knew this second that Ringu put on your finger, you know what to do. And I went like, it was very clear. And I was like, Okay, wait for a second. So many of us talk about, oh, I want to be empowered. I want to you know, to dial in my intuition. Use the Law of Attraction manifest. We’re not willing to do the hardship. And sometimes spirit does not just give you everything you ask for and make it freakin easy. So I got to have to get chills just thinking about it. I got this nudge that was you know what to do. You just don’t want to do it. And, I said to God, I said, You’re right. I’ve been saying, Hey, God, like, I want all these things, and I’ll surrender to you. And I haven’t been surrendering. Like, what is true surrender? I said, Whatever you say, but here’s the thing. I’m feeling a little. I’m feeling a little numb. Yeah, like, I need you to show me something. deniable that I can’t like, I can’t be like, Oh, God told me that, like, show me something. Give me an anchor. And I said, when I’m in LA, and want you to show me a wishbone. And then right after that, I went wishbone like, where did I even come up with that? Like what? I don’t I’ll tell you why. I think it’s because my higher self knew exactly what was going on. And I said, Yeah, a wishbone. I’m going to be in LA for three days, you got three days to show me a wishbone.
Now mind you, I’m not going anywhere to eat turkey. So I’m taking this as a challenge. I’m thinking I’m gonna put gum challenging the universe. I’m CHALLENGING GOD, like, oh, yeah, you really want to show me. So three days go by I don’t tell anyone, I only go to see one person, which is my best friend. And I don’t tell her about this conversation or this sign that I’ve asked for. And it is the day before I’m supposed to go home. And we’re going out for sushi. But we get to the restaurant about 20 minutes early, 30 minutes early. And she goes, Hey, let’s go to this bookstore, down the street. And just like peek around, it’s called the psychic guy in LA. We were walking around and I’m thinking oh, if I’m going to see a wishbone, it’s going to be in here. And we’re in there for a while and I don’t see anything and Oh, well. So we’re walking out we go to get in the car. She goes, Oh, what about this one next door? A small little sister store right next to a psychic guy is totally not the good one. And I’m like, no, no. Okay. And we walk in and there is a wishbone in a glass case, just on display. Like it couldn’t have been any more clear unless someone handed it to me on a silver platter. Holy shit. Holy shitballs only shift, right. So I say to her, I go, Oh my gosh. And because I didn’t tell her because I didn’t want her projecting and looking for it.
So I only told her what she goes on. What are you going to do? Because I’ve been crying to her for the past three days about like, Should I leave? Should I not? What should I do? And she’s like, did this give you what you needed? And I went, Yeah. And then I knew you know because you don’t ask God to show off like that. You don’t ask for it like that. Get it and then being asked Cole, you know, you heard that right on? Yep. You don’t ask for something and then not do it. So I took that as my sign to go home. And the funny thing is, and I didn’t mention this, but when I was driving in LA from Arizona, as I passed through, there’s this little split on the freeway, right? Where the 170 and the 101 meet. I got this. I call them God moments now where there were just chills and like electricity running all through my body. I start crying. And I’m like, What is this like, what is going on? And I realized that like it was I could feel the creative energy of the city. Like what because I said Well, what is this feeling? I’m sobbing and I’m driving like I don’t even know why. And God goes creativity. So the story is actually quite long and I don’t want to like go down the rabbit hole too much but uh All in all, you know, I took that as my sign to leave the relationship but I also took that as my sign to move back to LA. And ever since I surrendered to like, you know, I actually wrote a blog about it called How a Wishbone brought me back to LA ever since I surrendered the wishbone.
It has been one God moment after another almost like my angels are just waiting sorry. Like they were just waiting for me to actually do the hard thing that I didn’t want to do because you know if part I know that part of my purpose is to uplift and inspire people to be their most brilliant self and shine their light there’s no way that I could be in a relationship where I’m not shining my light you know, like it was inauthentic for me to serve and want to be the leader I want to be if I’m not living that truth and it was like once I surrendered to the thing that was the hardest most unfathomable we’ll thing the most amazing things have been happening one after another and the signs keep coming in it’s very much like wow, I have no idea what’s coming next and this is scary as hell kind of new path in life and it’s you know, I see my business changing and growing and expanding and that scary too because I started off with just talking about music production but I I know I made to do and be and serve it at such a higher level and it’s all kind of just unfolding very beautifully through all these God moments ever since the wishbone so wow
In my head, you’re telling me that something and it’s like why did I not fly out to you because I just want to hug you
It’s I really appreciated you reaching out when you saw my post because the funny thing is when I got home it was not like the way I think I’m gonna blog about this. That was another God moment. By the way. When I was a God-moment worker.
WhatsApp when I reached you,
When I wrote The Will too. But when I wrote the wishbone, it was like I got here to LA and all of a sudden I kept getting this nudge. You need to write about this. You need to write about this. And I got a nudge I need to write a book not just about this, but in general, but it was like you need to write, write, just write a blog, write a blog, and I’m going no, no, no. And that’s how I knew it wasn’t me. Because like, that wouldn’t have been my idea. So Nope, you gotta write about this. And sure enough, I wrote this three-part blog that I ended up sending to my list who does not follow me for spiritual woo-woo anything. I’m just like, here I come bursting out of the spiritual closet. Like it, you know. And the response to it was amazing. I’ve never had such intimate, amazing, inspiring conversations. I had so many women think of me and tell me how it inspired their own journey. And you know, in some places they were stuck. I got people messaging me. Oh my god, I got stuck with this thing. I asked for a sign and I got a sign. And I’m like, as this is happening, I’m like, This is it. This is it. You know, I feel like, like life is a game of hot and cold. And when you feel chilled lumps and you feel like God moments and you feel like that, oh, you’re getting warmer, you know, you gotta go towards that. Like, that’s what Joseph Campbell meant when he said, Follow your bliss, right? So, you know, the next God moment was like, You got to write this book. And I’m like, so it’s like, you know, it’s a lot of exciting, new creative ideas that I’m just looking forward to seeing how they unfold.
That’s incredible. Yeah, a couple of things that are really sticking out of your entire story. It’s one, God loves to show off your rights. When you ask him to he’s like, Come on, bring more of that. Why don’t people you know, everybody’s asking me like, Hey, can you help me with my job or something like that? And he’s like, Well, that’s too easy. I think you can just do that yourself, right? You just have to get out of bed in the morning. But it’s like, Give me something really big that I can just wow, the crap out of you. And then but there’s, I think there’s a caveat to that, too, that I’m picking out of your story in order for that to even happen. It’s like because whoever universe sources God, whatever it knows whether you’re willing to follow through and do the hard shit. That matters, if that shows off where do appear in your life. Yeah, and that’s where a lot of us get caught up. I know I have. It’s like, you know, cool, show me do some really big stuff. And then it’s like, well, I look back, it’s like, Well, I wasn’t really willing or ready for that or want to make the hard call that I needed to even take advantage of that. And it’s like luck is defined as preparation meets opportunity. Absolutely. And that’s, that’s where you’re at. Chris, you’re amazing for real, and thank you for coming out. And again, this was just incredible. I think we’re gonna come back for a third episode in the new person.
Oh my gosh, I would love that. I’ll come to Chicago
Suites. Your chair is right there. That’s where you said there’s a mic. It’s another seat for you. It’s awesome. We’ll bring in sushi. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for being so vulnerable. You’ve, you’ve made me tear up today and just recognize even things in my own life. You’re incredible. Thanks.
Thank you. It’s so funny. Just to circle back to what you just said. Like, it’s exactly that. It’s that. Oh, God, you know, I’ll do whatever you say, oh, except for that. Yeah, got some help with this, uh, you know, and then you hear that it’s like, people think intuition is like this very strong, powerful loud, like, external, you know, voice. And sometimes it’s not sometimes every time it’s always like, I really, truly believe that we have all the answers inside of us. Like, if I look back now, in retrospect, at the whole thing, I’m like, oh, there was the first red flag out there, was it? It’s like that still small little voice that you’re like, No, I don’t want to listen to that. Because I want to make this something else. Right. And it’s like, I think this work is so much. It’s so much. It’s so much deeper than just like, I’m going to manifest, or like the law of attraction. It’s like, No, I’m gonna, I’m actually going to do the work. You know, like saying that you want to be empowered is a massive responsibility, because it means you’re gonna have to get really comfortable with being uncomfortable. Right? Right. We’ve all heard this thing. God doesn’t call the qualified, he qualifies the called.
Oh, no, I haven’t. And that just gave me chills. Like, not kidding. I’ve got goosebumps.
Yeah. And so I find like, you know, I’ll be honest with you, right now, there’s a lot going on. That’s, you know, maybe in the past, I would have even referred to as like anxiety-ridden, you know, there’s a lot of fearful like, I don’t know what’s going to happen. And I could see how that could take me like, you know, one of two different ways, but it’s like everything in our life, we have a choice for how we perceive it, everything is it just is there is no good or bad. There’s only it’s only the way that you perceive it. And it’s like my biggest lessons in life right now are all about, how I’m choosing to respond and embrace things. And like, for example, some of the, you know, things going on within work, you know, for example, I can go like, Oh, this is awful, I can go wow, look at this opportunity at the person I get to become, and who I used to be to solve that level of problem. Right? So like, I don’t know, for me, like, that’s the spiritual work. It’s the switch in perception and being able to go I have so much power because I control my thoughts. Yeah, bingo. Like, that’s what I want to, you know, in so many words, write a book about because I think the most valuable, I have two of the most valuable lessons I can think of I’ve ever learned in my life. And one is that I could change my thoughts and change my reality and go from being homeless sleeping out of our car addict, 15-year-old, you know, to building a business as a music producer to building a business as an entrepreneur, you know, with the courses I taught it produces like a boss, right? And it’s like, I did all of that. Sure.
There were steps I had to take that were tactical and logical, but I had to change my mind and my identity first, right? So it’s like change your definitely it’s like a change your thoughts, you know, change your reality. But the second part is, learned it like you just said dream bigger. Yeah, the only people are like, they just walk around, they go like, Oh, I would just be so happy if I could just make enough money to live and I’m like, do you just want enough air to breathe like that? God’s gonna help you with that. He’s gonna be like, Okay, well, you can handle that on your own. But it’s like what happened to like Audacity, what happened to like, wanting it all because you can have it all. Like, no one ever taught me that. I don’t know if I’ve ever shared this story with you. But I remember sitting in a restaurant with my mom when I was 12. And there was a woman playing guitar in the corner. And she was singing like Bonnie Raitt. And lets up Lung and Heart, which are like my mom’s and some of my favorite bands. She was, you know, doing the Bar Bar gig thing. And my mom looked up, and she looked at me and like, she was doing her best. This isn’t a dig on my mom. But she said, Oh, you could do that one day. And guess what? I became a bar musician for like seven years. I think in retrospect like no one ever told me I could win a Grammy. Yeah. Well, the seven-figure and eight-figure business but by the same token, my mom didn’t have the tools to know that or teach me that. So once again, it’s not a dig on her.
But it’s like to come back around to that second biggest lesson I learned is like, you don’t have to have other people and still dreams and you’re like, you can dream as big as you want. Nothing I’ve accomplished in my life makes any sense. It really does it like oh, I moved back to LA because of a wishbone. I just built a seven-figure business in less than two years of teaching music production courses, and I didn’t graduate high school. So it’s like whenever I get scared, and I’m like, I don’t know what’s happening. Next, I’m like, Well, it hasn’t made sense thus far. Why would it make sense moving forward? Like, just trust and do the work? Do you know? And for me the work is it used to be like a grind, grind, do the work. And it’s like, it’s not that I don’t still do strategy, logic, and tactics. And this is why I think you reached out to me, as I made a post that said, I’m following my intuition. Now. Yeah, it’s a combination of both. Because my pendulum has swung very far, both ways throughout my life, where it’s like, I’m super woo-woo, and things will just happen. And then I’m super logical and strategic, and like, I’m gonna make it happen, and none have worked very well for me. But when I find a way to bring them together, and I go, I am gonna take action, but not like an octopus on rollerskates inspired action that I’m gonna get from my own inner being or God or source or universe, then I couple that with a badass marketing strategy and business stuff that I’ve learned as well. Now you got that perfect combination of masculine and feminine energy that makes the whole. That’s, that’s the goal for me to get to stay there.
Yeah, that’s gonna be, well, it’s an effort to stay there too, isn’t it? And it has to be because it’s easy to get pulled to one side or the other, and totally when you’re there. But now, as you go through that, though, so it’s up, every moment, every situation, every event, you become more and more aware of what each of those looks like. Yeah, to where it’s like, well, wait a minute, I’m starting to. I mean, it’s very easy, right? Because two years ago, you see, Tony Robbins. And it’s very easy to just have the woo at that moment, and then be like, this is the way, like, forever, this is the way and it’s like, well, we’ll time out. I don’t think Tony built a multibillion-dollar business or business is just doing that for himself, and his strategy and planning and everything else behind it. So it’s the balance is essential. Man, well,
I think to where I’ve got stuck with that and I’m getting more clarity on it, the more work I do around it is that you know, strategy tactics, like it’s either free Google or chat GPT a bowl, right? Like, you know, if it was all we needed, we’d all be rich and skinny. You know, like, information isn’t actually valuable. Like how many people go, I build an eight-figure business, I’ll teach you how to do it, and then you buy the course? And then Oh, it didn’t work? Well, you know, that’s because there’s something missing in the foundation there. So it’s like, I think it’s really about like, who like, are we doing that inner work and the Know thyself, and the, you know, not trying to be a fish climbing a tree, you know, saying like, Oh, I think I want that thing because that’s what everybody else wants. And sometimes we’re chasing goals that aren’t actually meant for us. But if we really, really just stopped to get still and turn inward and go like, what am I really meant to do? And then took the action. We’d have a lot fewer octopuses on rollerskates, myself included. Like, you know, we’re gonna say that because I’m like, you’re really busy, but you’re going nowhere fast. It’s like, that’s, to me like a person. That’s just all like, into, like, let me just work thinking that hard work equals value and like value, it’s like, is actually like, what the result is of the work that you’re doing, which can only come from inspired action, right?
Oh, well, yeah, it can only come from inspired action. That’s powerful, man. Well, you’ve, you’ve filled me up today. I’m just, this has been a joy. I mean, I wanted to bring you back on to tell your story. And at the same time, I had no idea would leave like this because it was just so interesting. And it’s very rare, Chris, that I’m speechless towards the end of one of these things.
Well, I just have to say that I’m so so grateful that you reached out and that you had me back on. Again. I so enjoyed the first time and the second time, so thank you, and I haven’t got a chance, to be honest, like this kind of first time. I’m really getting a chance to speak about this. So thank you for giving me that opportunity. It’s been a blast. That’s awesome.
Thanks for Going ALL IN. Yeah,