From Cancer to Spartan Races | Nick Klingensmith

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Episode Topics:

• Discover how Nick Clingan-Smith overcame cancer four times and transformed his life.
• Be motivated by Nick’s journey from serious health challenges to becoming a Spartan race enthusiast.
• Learn about the power of resilience and mental toughness in facing life’s greatest challenges.
• Gain insights into how obstacles, both physical and metaphorical, can be conquered.
• This episode is a testament to the incredible capacity for human endurance and spirit.

 

Rick Jordan  

Hey, what’s shakin, hey, I’m Rick Jordan today. We’re going all in. All right, today I’ve got an awesome treat for you everybody who listens. You know how much I love mindset. You know how much I post about that even the little blurbs that I write on my Instagram Stories, all the quotes that you see, you know, the majority of those are actually just from me and from my heart from my mind. And I’ve got somebody today who’s going to talk about this who has been just through a ton that has probably forged the way he thinks about his mindset. I mean, a four-time cancer survivor type one diabetic, recovering, alcoholic, herniated discs, nerve damage, sleep apnea, and he does all this while still doing like an obstacle course. Racing. It’s crazy and awesome. Nick, welcome to the show. 

 

Nick Klingensmith  

My man Rick, thank you for having me.

 

Rick Jordan  

I did not try your last name brother. Can you give me it’s a Klingensmith?

 

Nick Klingensmith  

You nailed it.

 

Rick Jordan  

I should have just said it.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

I know you got it right the first time and I was gonna correct it anyway. 

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah, you know sometimes I usually asked that before we hit the record button on this you know today I just didn’t do it. I mean, the first thing you know most of our most of our fan bases, listeners, right, and audio platforms. But if you’re not if you’re seeing video, right, I see all these metals behind that dude, those are the obstacle courses.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

So there are 98 completed Spartan Races. I don’t know how many trifectas that’s there. The big red, green and blue ones. There are six major marathons including Boston, Chicago, New York, and Berlin. And then just like I said, scores of other obstacle course racing five K’s 10 K’s suffer fests.

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah, I love that suffer fest. That’s fantastic. I’ve never seen one actually named that. But I’m sure that’s what you should be. Yeah, it absolutely should. Especially the Spartan Race, dude.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

That’ll be mine.

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah, there you go. Please. Fill out every weekend. Please do that. Yeah, no joke. I was. Somebody tried to get me into the Spartan Race probably like a decade ago. But I was actually, you know, like, a lot heavier than I am right now. And I was like, I don’t know, I think that looks like the software is gonna turn into like suffering forever fest if like, if I go through this being like 300 rounds. Kind of crazy. 

 

Nick Klingensmith  

Well, you know, something you actually that’s, that’s a great segue, because when I was first introduced to Spartan, it was October. It was a it was a Friday afternoon in October of 2016. And I was sitting in my office, and my boss walked in the office, and he said exactly that. I want to do Spartan racing, you’re doing it with me. And I looked at him and I’m like, oh, fuck I am. That, that sounds horrible to me. And an eight to 10-mile trail run with obstacles. 

 

Rick Jordan  

I had no intention of being that uncovered or like diving into the mud, everything like that. Yeah. Come on now.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

No way. So I went home that night, though. And that’s when I discovered the problem that I already was that uncomfortable because I used to be 240 pounds. And I had actually lost most of my weight already. So I was about a buck 90 A soft Buck 90, but I was okay with myself. I had just been promoted at work. I was two years sober. I was dating a new girl. That’s my now wife. And I had just decisively beaten cancer for the fourth time, my God. Wow. And then I realized I was wow, I had overcome so much to get to that point. And I was like, terrified and petrified of losing it all. And I was like, paralyzed with this bubble that I had created for myself.

 

Rick Jordan  

That’s insane. Man. You said for I mean, I said at the beginning to be you said four-time cancer survivor. It same cancer.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

Well, technically, I’m three, one in one, or three Oh, and one. Sorry, that would have been really bad. I’ve had thyroid cancer three times. And I had to be honest, I don’t know how to pronounce the name, but it was something back here and it was treated at the sarcoma clinic. 

 

Rick Jordan  

So that was the fourth one like pituitary-related areas. What’s that? Is our pituitary isms back there? Is that something that literally was it like surface level?

 

Nick Klingensmith  

Oh, interesting. Okay, yeah. And it was actually hiding, like, there was a lie Pomo, which is basically like a fatty pocket, which is not usually malignant. Yeah. But then I had there was a lymph node, like right there as well, that was that was malignant, interesting. And that one was simple. That one was actually the one that probably caused me the most grief in my life because I had thyroid for 11 years already at that point. And so when that one hit me, it was a new word. It was a scary word. Everything was different. I didn’t know what the prognosis was. And you know, you’re seeing different doctors trying to get answers and that’s one of the most challenging things about cancer is you want to know what’s next. And you don’t really get that answer a lot of the time. So that one was the simplest one, they cut it out of the back of my head, boom, done. Interesting. But I actually have had a tumor in my neck for exactly 10 years now, since what we found in April of 2014. Only this one, same same type of cancer, but it’s hidden pressed up behind the vocal cord. Words and they don’t want to operate on it, because it’s too dangerous. Crazy, man. Wow, is there in 10 years, and it’s still there?

 

Rick Jordan  

Is there a? Is there a common cause with all of these with you that they found? Or is it just kind of, you know?

 

Nick Klingensmith  

I used to think that someone was just really out to get me but like aliens? I don’t know. I don’t know. It’s like God was trying to either push me somewhere or strike me down one or the other. But nothing that I know of that would be the reason why I tend to have a handful of things more than the average bear. Yeah. But, you know, when we talk about mindset, it began with looking at all those things and feeling like I was being victimized by the universe for so very long. I had looked at my life like that I looked at cancer as something that I was being a victim of diabetes, and just every bad luck thing that ever occurred. So even if there was a common gene that I had, that basically gave me all these things now, I no longer look at it. Like, like, it’s something that I’m being victimized of.

 

Rick Jordan  

That’s good. I can relate to that. I’m glad you went on that segue too. Because as you were talking, I was like, Man, I remember back when I was going through gallbladder stuff because it was almost a death for me. And I’ve told the story on the show numerous times, but there was this eight-month stretch where they couldn’t figure out what was going on. And I remember those same thoughts, dude, totally remember those same thoughts. It’s like, why is this happening to me? Who’s doing this to me? What did I deserve to have this happen to me? Why do I get the worst doctors that just might be my lot in life, you know, all of this crazy negative self-talk, but I’m sure you can relate, there’s, there’s probably a good reason for the negative self-talk. Because there are real things that are actually happening.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

It is, you know, in the beginning, number one, it’s okay to process Yeah, however, we process. I’m not a therapist, and I don’t know other than other than physical violence against other people or yourself. I don’t think there’s a bad way to process Yeah, I’m with you. And, you know, and that’s how it was for me when I got diabetes. I write about this in my book, and I talked about it in my keynote, I was sitting in Walgreens waiting. I was 27 years old, waiting for my first prescription of insulin trying not to let anyone know that I was fucking frying. Yeah. And it was like because I was just why me. And this is that I learned a very valuable lesson because I asked out, I asked God, and I said, haven’t I had enough? Well, that was just a few months later, I was diagnosed with cancer a second time. So I decided to stop asking stupid questions.

 

Rick Jordan  

Like your humor in this, I do want to differentiate too, because it’s type one diabetes that you have. Right, right. Yeah. So I mean, there’s still a lot of ignorance around this. And, you know, it’s funny to catch myself saying that, because a lot of people think that ignorance is a bad word, it just simply means you don’t know something else. Exactly. It’s simply that I wish people would catch on to that, too, you know, because, and this comes down to like, the negative self-talk and the judgmental ism. And like I mean, it’s a mindset thing. It’s completely a mindset thing. Like, oh, you just think I’m stupid or something? No, I just think you don’t know. And that’s okay. So please like to bring you the knowledge, you know, it’s now

 

Nick Klingensmith  

I actually gave a talk earlier, a virtual virtual meeting with this company, and it was their emerging leaders. And when I was asked, like, what is one thing I should advise emerging leaders, the very first thing I told them was to embrace their vulnerability, the three best words that you can say, to build credibility is I don’t know. Yeah, right on, there’s that How old are you gonna learn? And you know, it’s funny, because I do talk about this with obstacle course racing, too, because I, what I find, and this is what a lot of people I work with on coaching, too. They’re not people who are stuck, because they’re losers, there’s, they’re stuck because they accomplished something. And then they don’t know what to do next. A lot of people get to these places. And I did too. All right, I was a good leader for a lot of reasons. And I was a bad leader for almost the same reasons. Because I was good. When I was a student, I was learning from everyone and everything. I became bad when I went from learning everything to protecting my ego. And that’s where I’ve caught myself being hung up on protecting that image I think I have or not wanting someone to know that I don’t know something. But I realized just how much I walked myself off, and that I was no longer learning to do what’s such

 

Rick Jordan  

I love how you approach that I was in this is a fresh story because it just happened this morning. Right? I’m in a meeting with you because I’m acquiring companies. You know, I don’t know how much you looked up about me before you came on the show. But I’m acquiring companies in the cybersecurity space after we went public, and this was a face-to-face meeting with a potential seller, as we call them targets, right? And want to say, hey, I want to get to know you face to face. It’s like Hello, buying signal. It’s like I see that right? That’s great. He wants to meet face to face. But in that meeting, I’m sitting here I’m saying these things. It’s like yeah, prior to November I’ve never taken a company public before it like I’ve never done this like man for years. That’s actually pretty quick for this. I’m like, I don’t know. Like, literally I’m saying this like, I don’t know, because this is the first time I’ve ever done this stuff. I’m like, there’s things I do know, like, but beyond that, it’s like, there’s a lot that I don’t know. And I like to stay in my lane because I’ve got good mentors on my team who have done this before, and are content and can take me down a path that they’ve forged in order for me to follow down that same path and then learn this knowledge. And I’m like, There’s stuff. I’ll talk about that. I do know, some people might call it arrogance. I’m like, I don’t think so. It’s just a fact. And the guy’s like, I don’t deal with arrogant people. And you’re like, the farthest thing from arrogant that I’ve ever seen in my life. And it was literally because of that dude. Because I was telling him, it’s like, I know some stuff. And there’s a lot of stuff that I don’t know. At the same time, I’ve got the right people in place to help guide us forward.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

I used to say that I was always talking about the things I knew to be cocky about. Well,

 

Rick Jordan  

there’s a difference there, too. There’s a difference between arrogance, I think, anyways, right arrogance and being cocky.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

But I’m using that in the same way. I’m using that same concept, at least that, but even then I realized that and I’m looking back at myself. So the last couple of years, and I mean, two years, I have been in this constant. We’re just when you start a path of self-reflection, and you start learning stuff about yourself, I don’t know, I can’t speak for other people. But I can’t shut the damn thing off. And so this is good, though. Because I’m no longer I don’t have to hide from my previous mistakes anymore. Yeah, with you. I get to learn from them. And a lot of that, I just, I never realized how much ego played a factor in my decision-making, both in business and relationships and a lot of things throughout life. And I’ll tell you what, one of the biggest things, this was my turning, not turning point. But my recognition of the turning point is when I wrote my book, it took me two years. And the first version. The first year was 125,000. Word ego manifesto. Alright, you might as well have had Jake Gyllenhaal on the cover.

 

Rick Jordan  

I talk about gonna look like and maybe a little.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

I got the Yeah. So I, I tell the same stories, yeah. But I can tell that I’m protecting myself, I’m not being truly vulnerable. And I’m even making excuses for some of the behaviors in the book, which quite honestly, at this point, loses the power of the book. Because if I’m not being honest about who I am, nobody’s going to care about who I am. And so when I went for that second year, though, of revising, and I cut 37,000 words out of that level, that’s when you start realizing that the bullshit you’ve been telling yourself, and when you strip it away, and then you start to see it over and over again. And you become okay with it. Because now it doesn’t, I don’t have to hide or make excuses for past behavior, or decisions, or failures, or anything where I wasn’t up to where I expected myself to be. I don’t have to live in that anymore. I get to grow from it, learn from it, and use it to help others.

 

Rick Jordan  

I love that man. I love that this is going down the route of ego too. Because it’s I forgot my question. It was a damn good question, too. It was a it was around ego. But it’s there are scenarios where I’ve seen individuals become aware that that’s an issue. Right? And then they still don’t do anything about it. Can you explain it? You probably went through that phase two. I know I did. You know, I’m actually like calling myself out because it was a portion that so it’s two-parter. So oh, I remember the second part. Okay, here we go. I get excited. The first part was, it’s like when you become aware, how do you actually make sure that you begin that ego work? And some people call it shadow work. You know, to go into that and kill that? And at the same time, do you think I have my own opinion? Do you think that killing the ego is a lifelong thing?

 

Nick Klingensmith  

I’m going to answer this 312. So the ego or preventing the ego is a daily grind for everyone, whether they admit it or not. And here’s why. What I have found is an elementary number one, ego comes from fear. It’s not, my ego was never that I thought I was better than other people. But I was protecting what I had built, I’d protected a false image. If I believed it. If I was confident, I couldn’t be then I wouldn’t be threatened by somebody else not seeing it. My ego was based out of fear. It was fear that the validation I got from certain people in my life wouldn’t I wouldn’t get that validation anymore. It wasn’t true. And ultimately, the way that I arrived at this, and this is the way it’s a learning process. I didn’t learn this until eight months ago. And here’s why. So when I left to become a speaker, and I really wanted to, I just wanted to identify my people more, right? It’s one thing to have a story. It’s another to tell it to people who don’t care or want to attack, right? Yeah. And I had an idea of who my people were, but I’m like, maybe not. So what I did is I actually started interviewing people people that I knew, but weren’t like close buddies with just people in my circle, right? Like I might see them at a race, or maybe we weren’t together a long time ago. But these are not my best friends. So I wouldn’t expect them to be truly open and vulnerable. But the second question was, what is your deepest fear? whelming response was this fear of not being good enough, a fear of rejection, that they weren’t good enough for their loved ones for their families for that they were fear they might not be able to provide, they might not be good enough for this, they won’t fit in this overwhelming majority of people talked about that. And so I was blown away by their openness and vulnerability. That’s number one. Yeah. And because of that, I started to examine, my own role, my own decisions, my attitudes, and my reactions to certain things. Plus, I’ve been working on reactivity with my dog. And I realized that so many of the times that I was aggressive, I was acting out of fear, fear about my ego fear about how whether or not the reality I wanted for myself was reality, fear of not getting what I wanted, or losing what I had. And so that is why I think that it is a full-time thing because somebody out there right now is talking about I don’t know if you know, I think I suck at everything. Well, you know what, that’s you are just as bad.

 

Rick Jordan  

It’s like the epitome of ego right there. It feels like because that’s like, Hey, look at me, I’m a victim of myself. 

 

Nick Klingensmith  

It everyone has that friend, right? Who, is the best at everything until you start complaining? And then all of a sudden, they have the worst of everything. To be at that extreme. Like, that’s, yeah, that’s insecurity in so many different ways in the way that I’m now more and more secure with myself as I’m able to recognize these share these things. But most importantly, and this is number two, this is how we kind of begin to get past it we use it to help others, there is nothing more humbling than simply helping other people, whether it be through spreading a message, getting this one ready, let someone out in traffic with somebody, the needs of somebody else besides yourself. First, yeah, that’s it.

 

Rick Jordan  

I’m gonna, I’m gonna share something with you a little vulnerable here. And I’m gonna ask you to coach me on it in real-time, Are you good with that? My biggest fear, right, you ready for this is not finishing what I was put on this earth to do. And that can even have seasons, right, because people have an overall purpose. But then I believe that people also have seasons of purpose. And that purpose can shift, you know, because it’s like, you can close the chapter on one on one, like mini purpose, right, like one sub purpose, and then you can move on to something else. So there’s an overarching purpose, but it’s like, my biggest fear is finishing everything I was put on this earth to do.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

First, let me say that I agree with you. 1,000%. By the way, you and I could do this all day. Because the people that I’m coaching that’s, that’s the very first thing we have to understand is that they finished or are starting a different phase or season of their life. Yeah, I played competitive beach volleyball for 20 years. I wrote something in 2014, where I basically what what would my life look like until I die. Beach volleyball was new like the biggest part of that thing I hadn’t played in eight years, well, I might not ever play again, I’ll never play competitive again. And that’s okay, that season is over. And I’ve accepted that I like, and once you accept that these things change, you can be ready for the next thing. I don’t know if I’ll do this forever. I hope to always be active and do something, but we’ll see how else that evolves. So that said, the first question I need to ask you are what are the things that you want to do in your life? 

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah, I want to see I don’t have a number on it yet. But it probably starts with a B as in billion, right? I want to, as some sort of cause causality that I am able to be a part of, whether that’s like the, the breakthrough moment with that person, or just planting a seed with that person, then somebody else comes along, you know, wherever that is something that they want, is helping around a billion people get to where they want to be in life. And that could be a career that could be a job, that could be relationships that could be, you know, I don’t know, a politician. You know what I mean, to help even more people that way and have that spider spider web out, though? Well, I, you know, I’ve never placed a number on it. But I think a million, you know, a couple million people, I think that’s too small. I think that’s way too small. The purpose that I think that I have is bigger. It’s like if it’s a billion people to get from point A to point B, whatever that point A or point B is in their life, whether it’s the seed planter or the breakthrough helper.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

Now, I’m gonna ask a question that I think I know the answer to because you kind of just explained it, but this is what I would call the vision and not the goal. Would you agree? Oh, yeah, for sure, man. Absolutely. Because a lot of people, right, a lot of people are lacking that number one, or you’re like, in the back of your head, you’re asking yourself, can I make this Number bigger, how do I make this dream and vision bigger? What is the way I multiply this impact? So the first thing I have to work with other people on is getting them to think that way to have an abundant mindset. And to get out of this limited doubt thinking, I even share a story about when I was in my like, 20 to 23 years old, making a whopping $42,000 a year with probably $80,000 in school debt and $30,000 with it, like, I never saw a way out. And I wasn’t motivated to do more at work or to live my life because I never saw a way out of that inching forward lifestyle. And so number one, if I were coaching you, that’s the first thing we’d have to work on. We’re now you got that one. Good. So the question then I would ask. Well, now let’s see, right? I think I lost the video here.

 

Rick Jordan  

Oh, am I still there?

 

Nick Klingensmith  

I hear you.

 

Rick Jordan  

You hear me? Oh, you did lose? Oh, hey, okay, there we go. Hey, I’m back. Whoo. Okay.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

All right., if I were working with you already, I would assume you don’t have a plan. So I’m going to ask you, though, do you have a plan on how you plan to achieve that and turn it into a tangible metric?

 

Rick Jordan  

I do. I absolutely do. And there are some things that are that are future based. And I’m not going to share because there are certain stepping stones, but the one I can tell you about right now is the one that have in the present. Right. And that’s why I said there’s like there’s seasons of it too, because I can always see where this season is. And when the next one might start. You know, and I don’t know if the next season will be like the big part of this planet, or if there’s going to be an intermediary season that I can’t see yet with some other, you know, like, so give

 

Nick Klingensmith  

me a great example of something. Yeah. So on that. And this is why I actually call myself a motivational storyteller and not a speaker. So one of the guys I’m working with is we’re doing this thing where again, we kind of looked down the line said, you know, what do you what’s your compass? What’s your true north? How do you die? Okay, yeah. And then we started working our way back. And he’s stuck on 12 years out, he’s 33 years old, he’s crushing it. And the thing where he starts writing the vision is these declarative statements. Okay. So, you know, if you were like, I am doing this thing that impacts billions of people. His was, you know, I am expected. I’m a respected executive leader in my industry, blah, blah, blah. All right. Well, he’s in a technology-related industry. So the very first thing I had to ask him is, well, what’s it going to look like in 12 years? Yeah, this industry didn’t exist 10 years ago. And so then we have to begin to think about all these potential variables, right? You can’t predict the future that 10 years ago, we wouldn’t have known existed. So I then have to turn the attention to him where people were, I think a lot of us get screwed up as kids, they asked us, What do we want to be when we grow up? Yeah. And they should ask us, who do we want to be when we grow up? Amen. Because that’s what I’m working with him on now. Because here’s the thing, I showed him this exact same thing that I had done 10 years ago. And right now, at this stage in my life, I’m supposed to be like some super sales executive, like vice president of all global sales industry, in the whole logistics industry, and everybody was gonna know who I am. And well, I don’t want any of those things. Yeah, yeah. So who do I want to be? I want to be somebody who helps others. Yeah,

 

Rick Jordan  

right on. That’s the thing that I’m with you on that is that so many get caught up in the what? You know, and it’s like that like around it. That’s why I’m even saying it’s like, you know, I know, there’s this other part, that will be a season, but that’s still a who, and there might be an intermediary season. And I don’t know what that looks like, man, you know, that there might be in the middle, I think there might be this intermediary season between those two. But I know who I’m going to be in that intermediate Aries season, I know who I am right now. Having a public company and building wealth for so many people that are involved in this people that would have never been able to build generational wealth prior to this, you know, to give them a foundation, because money has a lot of emotion tied to it. And it’s almost like, it’s like setting a lot of people free from like that fear. You know, and teaching a lot of people that money is more so a tool than anything else. It’s not the end all and be all we’re not just made to be here, you know, pay bills and die, you know that that’s not what it’s about, you know, so it’s like bringing people from that purpose from A to B right now. And then when that season’s over at some point, right, because the company’s public, and then we’ll replace the NASDAQ, and I’ll be CEO for a little while, maybe chairman and founder at some point, and then I don’t know when I’m sure I will exit completely. Whether that’s five years, 10 years, 15 years down the road, and then it’s moving into the next season. And yeah, I

 

Nick Klingensmith  

was gonna say you’re not a guy who’s going to take that next season sailing, so you’ll

 

Rick Jordan  

know. Exactly, yeah. So you look at all that stuff. And it’s like, that’s the that’s my biggest fear is not having enough time to accomplish all of that.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

You know, back to the original question about the coaching aspect and right, yeah, literally. I mean, if we got into the granular details, there would be some insight I’m sure I could give that would help be helpful. But that said, you’ve got you’ve got the turn the vision into an actionable plan part. The part that I would have to coach you on is accepting the fact Uh, you’re not going to get it all done. Wow, that’s powerful. You’re not. And God I hate to say this, but you know, bro, we could die today. Yeah, for sure. Right now Yep, be that random-ass earthquake that random-ass tornado the second eclipse of the sun, whatever the hell, and the reason I know those two is because I’ve almost died like 11 Damn times Yeah. And it’s not even about what I went through it is the countless friends that I’ve lost along the way I lost somebody the other week, 42 years old to a stroke, he has a baby girl. So it’s not that I will get I just tell you this, you’re not going to. So we have to embrace that level of failure, but also embrace the futility of it and know that it’s about the purpose and impact we can make while we can. So really, if I were coaching you it would be on developing this mindset of whether was I intentional with my time today. Did I spend my time? Am I spending my time right now? Moving towards my goals? Or away from them? Because outside of that vacuum? You don’t have any other control?

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah, yeah. 

 

Nick Klingensmith  

Do another your fixed would also be and this wouldn’t be somebody who would probably pay me for months and months and months and should because it is it is regular work. And I have to constantly reassure them, that it’s okay to disconnect yourself from the outcome. Yeah, you know, we’re responsible for the effort. And by the way, this is also how it’s probably how I stay sober. It’s how I reduce anxiety in my life. I’m responsible for the effort. Yeah, I put the plan together, it’s my job to execute the plan, it is my job not to let fear or doubt or excuses get in the way of the plan or any other distractions or you know, laziness. It’s okay for me to rest when I need to rest. So I can recharge as long as it’s helping me support the high energy that I need to go after my goals. My purpose is to overcome every obstacle and inspire others but they can too that also doesn’t mean I’m going to successfully overcome every obstacle. And that doesn’t mean that I failed at my purpose. Just because something redirects me or has more power over me reminds me to take actions that are aligned with my purpose.

 

Rick Jordan  

If I had like a mic drop sound effect right now. That’s That’s what would be used because Dude, you just and this is a perfect place for us to stop on an amazing high note because you just gave millions of people permission to be human. Okay, I’m soaking it in right now, too, because it’s like, you think about that. It’s like, did I accomplish everything today that I wanted to that I needed to? And the answer is almost always No, bro. You know, did I get everything done today that I want it to? It’s, you know, nine times out of 10? It is? Nope, sure didn’t. And that’s okay. 

 

Nick Klingensmith  

And that’s also why you have to set these big goals. Yeah, right. Your goal is huge. It’s so big. You literally can’t even count it. Yeah, right. All right. You’re trying to count your goal. It’s so big.

 

Rick Jordan  

I just, I just know, it looks too small. For real. It’s like, no, wait a second. I think I’m thinking way bigger than that. 

 

Nick Klingensmith  

It’s like That’s because a lot of people go the other way. And they say I’m gonna help 10 people. And if that works, I’ll add 10 more, but that’s why they don’t accomplish it. And the thing is, I’m gonna sit, I don’t. I ran the Boston Marathon for my first marathon. And it was six months after a car accident where I couldn’t run a mile. All right, I don’t set small goals. I tried to run to New York in under four hours with a broken foot. I failed miserably, but I ran New York and raised $10,000 for charity. Like, I set really big goals because resilience thrives when there’s a deep sense of purpose. Oh,

 

Rick Jordan  

Man, I love who you are. Notice I’m being intentional with my words, not saying what you do, because it’s like who you are is way more important than what you actually do. Stride motivation.com Right. That’s where people can find you. Yes, sir. I love it. Nick. You’re amazing, man. Thanks for bringing the energy and just lifting everybody up today. This has been incredible for me. It’s you thanks for coaching me on the spot to think that made things pretty interesting and awesome to hear about. I loved it.

 

Nick Klingensmith  

We found something that might work too. So I appreciate it. Thanks for having me.