About the Episode:
Some of the biggest illusions in life are time and control… These are things that aren’t owned. Listen how Kris Dehnert, the CEO of Dugout mugs, has learned that time is not our’s to have, it is borrowed.
Over the last 14 years, I have found success in numerous verticals, including real estate, apparel, hard goods, affiliate marketing, strategic partnerships, etc… but my focus has really been rooted in eCommerce and social media where I have managed to surpass $60 million dollars in sales online. What makes my story a little more unique is that I did it on my terms. Sandals, shorts, backwards hats, and just being as genuine as I could be. I literally was FIRED from every (except one) job I ever had because I insisted on doing it my way… What I found is that I needed to create the “job” I wanted.
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My guest today is just an amazing human being, somebody I’ve known for a few years and also the largest licensee for Major League Baseball. It’s incredible Kris Jenner. Welcome, brother.
What’s happening, man? Thanks for having me on.
Dude, is anyone here have you on? Yeah, we were talking a little bit last week when we saw each other in person and you’re doing some amazing things, man.
I mean, just a lot of fun. And a lot of fun. That’s for sure, and amazing. Things tend to happen when you’re having fun, right?
I think that’s the case usually. Yeah, exactly. Amazing. Some troublesome things sometimes you’re having fun, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that’s what makes it fun. Anyways, dude. So I started this off you know, like giving you props about the largest because I found out last week we were talking about the largest MLB licensee, right, fastest growing.
There’s some big boys out there. But I mean, they’ve been in the game for a minute. Our company’s only been hanging out for a license for maybe three years. So the fact that we’re just doubling year over year, you know, Inc 5000. All this kind of stuff. We are certainly one of the maybe one or two fastest growing licensees a decade or two honestly.
I gotcha. Yeah, I think we got some. I’m gonna hold on for one sec. Well, I did this product Hey, guys, you got the music on loop. We go, it’s a good thing. This isn’t living right. That’s why you record it. Well, if it is all right, yeah. No, I’ve got it. Dude. I got top notch. team that’s here, man. It’s just awesome. The rocket the whole world. So you’re the fastest growing licensee in Major League Baseball. That’s pretty badass. Did you ever think you’d be there dude? I mean, cuz I met you a couple years ago. And it seemed like you were just getting started a few years back, right?
Yeah, Imean, I always think I’m gonna get there. Right. That’s just part of what it is like without that kind of vision and the kind of grit and I know, I’m greedy, and I know I’m hard working. And I know I don’t make excuses. So I always anticipate getting there. Was that a specific goal? No, I didn’t even know that was a thing. But I knew I was going to be the best in the world at what we were doing. And we did that in short order, and we haven’t slowed down and usually the things that come along with that or you know, those types of accolades.
Yeah, right on man. I appreciate your heart too, because last week, you know, I saw photos of your daughters, your wife, and just you said this is what I live for. This is why I do what I do. Yeah. How old are you girls now?
I have a two and a seven. Nice. Yeah. My wife and I we’ve been together for 17 years and married for nearly 10. We’re coming up on 10 Pretty soon.
That’s cool brother. I took that and how did she feel when you started this whole thing? Cuz it
So you got like I said, the reason I bring up how long we’ve been together is because it puts things into perspective. Right? So she’s known me so I used to open gold gyms for a living and then I was real estate and I was this, you know, dugouts, my eighth company. You know, a lot of people don’t know that because they’re just focused on what you’re doing now. Right? But she’s kind of been through this roller coaster with me, you know, make a million lose to make to, you know, lose one. It’s just this, this chaos and she’s not from, you know, her family’s not like that, you know, most families aren’t like that. And, you know, so it’s a little stressful at times for her but I think every day and every minute that she’s around me, she’s like, well, this is crazy, sumbitch he’s gonna do it. Like, I don’t know how or whatever, but I know he’s gonna get it done. So when I started this, she has always been a supporter. Now Randall, my partner. This is his baby. This is the first time he’s ever had such a venture. Right? So it was more about getting him to believe in what we’re doing right so when he could see Alexis and he saw some of the other people around me they’re like yeah, this one I don’t know he’s gonna do it but he’s gonna do it. And it was really kind of a kind of took some of those guards down you know, but she’s been through the wringer bro. So by now she’s like, believed in me pretty hard.
That’s pretty cool when you’ve got that backstory too, because I share the same you know, you fall on your face so much that you know that you can absolutely get back up again, regardless of whatever is going to hit you and that’s really the confidence builder that happens you know, no matter how hard you fall because I think that at some point in my life, you know, hopefully not but in a different area that I’ll fall harder than I ever have, but maybe in a different topic or something like that, because it’s something new that I’m venturing into.
Yeah, well, it’s either experience or being naive. Those are the two things confidence
The second one is a lot here.
Scared to Dumbo at least here, right, and you know, I don’t even know. I have nothing anyway, what am I gonna lose? Right? So you know, so just being naive can build confidence and then once you realize what you’re capable of the experience and expansion of a balloon, right? It never goes back to where it started, and that’s kind of what we are. And at this point, we’re just just stretched out rubber, like we can bend and move in ways that many can’t even fathom. And when you have that kind of flexibility and versatility, you can go a long way.
Failure is like entrepreneurial yoga. About that.
Oh, yeah. Without a doubt, dude. Yeah, and you learn more, right? Like you learn more when you fail than you ever do when you succeed. So I tell people that because I do consulting and stuff, and they’re like, Oh, I’ve never had a loss before. It’s like you’re full of shit or you haven’t tried hard enough. It really comes down to losing and failing, like that’s really when you learn a lot about yourself. And, and you know, your capabilities.
Yeah, for sure. Let’s talk about your failures a little bit, Challis. Because as you’re in your bio, I love this. It says, You were lit, you literally were fired from every except one job you ever had because you insisted on doing it your way first. What’s the one that you weren’t fired for?
Golds Gym. I had a guy Dave Guernsey always give him props for. He was one of my first mentors whether he tried to be or not. And he opened a gym. He had a aerospace engineering degree from us so he had a whole different path. He got there. He’s like what I’m gonna do in that I’m gonna open gyms. He’s been very successful with it. And I was this kid that came in that had wild ideas. I was 21, and I’m running. I had, like, 4050 employees at 2122 years old. All of them are older than me, some significantly older than me. But I had these new ideas and there was this new website that came out called Facebook and here’s how we’re going to leverage it, and you know.
I was always just dreaming and doing and man I hit I hit levels that had never been seen before. 150 160 memberships a day. On some of these promotions we’re doing I was bringing dump trucks into the gym and dumping dirt and sand and building beaches and we do like luaus and just real crazy shit, you know, and what it did is it created in with all that he brought to the table we created this atmosphere that was that was award winning, nationally award winning clubs, and so he’s like, again, I don’t know how this kid’s gonna do it, but he’s gonna come up with something that’s going to work. Right and so that’s the one I didn’t and I was texting with him yesterday. I was at the gym today. So yeah, yeah, he believed in me right I’ll still be a huge fan of mine, which is awesome.
That’s awesome, brother. That’s important, isn’t it? Because I mean, even with the ventures that I’m going through, does it ever surprise you? When you look around at the people that surround you like wow, they actually believe in me.
Yeah, what’s important to pay attention to who’s cheering for you? Right It says a lot about a unit, says a lot about the people you attract and you’ll find a lot. On the other hand, You’ll find a lot of people that are, you know, on the negative side. Oh, yeah. Oh, God, we know they’re there. But yeah, man, they are the loudest but they’re the least relevant in what’s needed. Like what you said is like the people that are cheering for you, they’re there. And it’s motivating, because there’s down days or shitty days where you just feel like, this is too much I can’t handle and that’s when you got to lean into your support systems. And a lot of times those people, especially the ones that are being verbal, so if you see people whoever’s listening if you see people doing good, like cheer forum, right? There’s so much abundance out there, like cheering for these people. They need it. They might be there for you when you need it.
Right on what was one of those load times rather that you had when you had to lean on those people?
When I had, I had a few back to back losses of all six figures and it felt like all what I just like really grinded to get and I felt like I couldn’t miss right. I think that was even my password and all my shit, right? I kid can’t miss right whatever. But then I did and I did again I did again and again. I stopped and I was like all that money I just saved up it’s just burning. I just threw it in the fireplace. Oh, to kind of warm up. But, it was leaning into those people and you know, I made a few phone calls and I said hey, look, she went sideways. I need like 10 grand 10 grand just so we just threw 10 grand at me just so I can handle some stuff. Or or when I got super sick which is a story I don’t go into very often. Um, I show shutting down businesses. I was shutting down relationships. I was shutting off people because I wasn’t gonna die letting them think I still like them. Or, or I was you know, you know what I mean? Like you were going through some really tough stuff. And at that time, I leaned into family, I leaned into friends, I leaned into ventures and past partners, and it’s when you do right by people consistently, they’re always going to have that safety net around you, you know, so I lean there’s plenty of times that I’ve leaned into that group.
Yeah. You said you were sick for a while too. Yeah, I
Yeah I ruptured my appendix while I was on my way. So yeah, which is not uncommon. But the way I went about it was very uncommon. So I had a restaurant in Tampa for a little while with some buddies and I had a business meeting. You always do it at your restaurant. It’s just a ridiculously awesome steak and sushi house, you always go to your place. Well, I had knee surgery on both knees. I didn’t know the week before, and I said, Well, I have to get to this meeting. So I borrowed my buddy’s Ferrari because I had paddle shifters. I didn’t have to use my legs. So I’m driving an hour away. I probably had oxy cotton that morning because my knees were like killing me. And I’m driving somebody else’s Ferrari, and already this is a fucking mess, right? So by the time about halfway there.
So my stomach starts hurting and I’m like, oh, it’s probably the pain meds right? Let me pull off at a Starbucks and just slam a coffee. Actually, I went to the meeting. This happened on the way back, my stomach started hurting at the meeting and I went ahead and left and I just decided, You know what, let me just slam a coffee. You’ll get you going right so I slammed this coffee, buddy. I hit the floor. I spent about a half hour on the floor of a Starbucks bathroom which you can imagine what that fucking gross oh god yeah, and I couldn’t get up I had to crawl out of there. People like banging on the door like duty. Okay, thought I died in there, and I finally crawled outside and limped outside and sat down in the sun, hoping to make me feel a little better. I didn’t know what’s going on. Anyway, I decided instead of going to the hospital, which was two blocks away, so I used to live in that town, and instead I just went home because I had the Stanley Cup. The next night I bought tickets to the Stanley Cup. I had another meeting the next day, and it turns out a week later, when I’m laying in bed, all my organs and bodily functions and they’re just not working. My skin’s turning yellow.
Well, yeah, it was a week after but so I went into the hospital and when you get there I was like me, I think I’m just constipated. Like something’s up with these medicines I’m on for this knee surgery. They were like oh, let’s take a quick scan, and the doctor came back in and there’s like three other people with him, and I was like, Well, that’s an odd thing to see right now, and they said, well, actually you’re not constipated. What happened? If you should have been dead a few days ago. But instead your body built this wall. This abscess is built in your horn. It’s the size of a football, and so poison balls the size of a foot. It’s like a bomb in your body, and they said you really don’t have time, we have to just flip you over and take this out. No pain meds, no nothing because we need to go through your back four different layers, and we need you to tell us when we get there. So we can do this the right way. So I’m like.
Oh, okay. Can you tell them?
Yeah, so they couldn’t give me enough pain meds to numb it up because they said they’re going to go through. They’re telling me they’re doing their first layer, second layer, third, and when we get to this thing, you’ll feel a lot of pressure and a lot of pain. But we don’t want to puncture it because it’ll rupture your whole and you’ll die basically because all that poison you’ll soak it up. So I didn’t really have time to think through it, and my wife showed up and then went through my back. They pulled this thing out. I went into shock like all this stuff chip. My teeth are crazy. Yeah, and I ended up in the room up there. And this is after the guy told me he’s like you got about a one in three shot of not making it out of here. And you don’t really want to hear that right when you’re in your early to mid 30s. And you’re just just kicking ass and you got a six month old baby at home, you know? So that was really interesting. And it was a big perspective changer for me, and I’m laying there in bed. I mean, 105 10 my mom, you know, leaning into your support systems. Your mom waving a fan on you till her arm cramped up at 60 You know what I mean? Just to keep my temperature from 105 to 104.
My wife couldn’t come see me because we had a six month old. At six months old I may never see her again. Right? And that’s the one that hit me the most because it’s like, you’re so busy chasing money, you’re not chasing happy and there’s fucking happy everywhere. So that was a really big shift for me and it allowed me to really dive in deep and be very specific on the types of deals I do and the people I deal with, and when I got more focused, and I built a lifestyle by design, it’s a you know, it’s a phrase some people have heard but doing it is another story. So I built a lifestyle by design and it all revolves around what I want all my time. I want experiences to collect memories, not things like that kind of stuff. You know each one of these are things but it represents a memory in something badass that I got to do with Pete Rose or Mariano Rivera, whatever. So I just kind of changed my thoughts and again, all these deals I was in they didn’t fit that mold anymore. So I’m like, Dude, you can go to hell, you can go to hell. I’m done here and we’re done here, and when you do that the financials just crumble right and that’s what again, one of the times when I leaned into old partners in this and I’m like, “Hey, man, that deal we’re in can you just buy me out of it?” “Yeah,” it’s so made enough to get through, set a few prayers and like to put somebody in my path that needs my skill set and that meets all my new criteria. My new criteria. Yeah, and very short, very concise, very clear, very powerful, and it did that. And then this kid calls me out of the blue one day, he’s like, Hey, I got an idea, and I’m like, Well, dude, I can take it to the top if you want. Buckle up and here we are. You know, 30 $50 million companies at this point. Depends on who you’re asking, right?
Yes, for sure. Man. Thanks for sharing so much man and being vulnerable with that too, because it’s a perspective changer. I went through a lot of health stuff years back and that’s really kind of shifted things for me because I was focused on it. wasn’t necessarily money, but it was like that. You ask yourself questions like What am I even doing here? As I look back at things, it’s like, I’ve got amazing kids. I’ve got an incredible family and why am I even on this earth? That’s something that I need to figure out real quick because of the same type of scenario. It’s the one that was 20 minutes away from being dead. Yours was an appendix mine was a gallbladder, and it was just, yeah, sometime over drinks. I’ve told the story on the show a lot, but just to relate to you, man. It was just a perspective changer. Because it’s like, what can I do to accelerate things and how can I care less about me and more about everybody else around me?
Yeah, yeah. Were your kids young when that happened?
Yeah, my twins were seven and my youngest was five.
Yeah, I had a six month old that I’ve never really met. Because I was in a business. I was in the cannabis business. So I was flying back and forth from Denver, Colorado for a bunch. And so I was in my six month old grow up on Zoom, like a fucking clown. And then this hits, and the only thing I can think of it’s like, I’ll never see your walk, talk. Within like what I’m doing, and it really brought things home. You know, it really did in a good way, and I’m really it’s the best thing that’s ever happened to me. Honestly. So now I’m completely unapologetically authentic and don’t give a shit about most things. And I’m just me right and people love it. Hate it. I don’t care either way. Right and my family gets me all the time. All the time every night. Every morning.
I’m taking her to school every night. I’m cooking every night and putting them to bed singing them songs, this kind of stuff which, with time, constantly fleeting people, you’ve probably heard me say it the other day. It’s the biggest illusion out there. It’s time and control. You don’t have these things. They’re not yours. You need to borrow them and now I get to spend as much of that time that I’m gifted, gifted back which you can appreciate doing the things that I think are more impactful. And you know, it was a really interesting shift. And you’ll appreciate this too, I think I mean, you’re doing big things, right? I’d respect the hell out of that. For me, it was like I used to want to leave a legacy. Right? And now, you know, I want the world and one of my favorite movies is Troy. Oh, brother. Yep. Remember, okay, at the beginning, the kid will go up to Pitt, and he’s like, Dude, that’s the biggest man I’ve ever seen. I never want to fight him. He’s like, Well, that’s why no one will remember your name. Right? I was like, Oh, I wanted to. I wanted the world to remember my name, but now it’s I only care about the right people even remembering my name and carrying that legacy and being more impactful and having fewer bigger, better, deeper relationships, then trying to you know, you leave this worldwide legacy of me who the hell cares? The people who care have always been there and I want them to carry it, you know? So that’s my, but that’s my journey. Yeah. And I think that’s important is that everybody being defining what theirs is.
That is and hopefully they don’t have to go through a scenario like you and I did in order to refocus that. That’s a
They do learn from it. Yeah, right. People go through that and they go right back to what they were used to because of fear.
Yeah, that’s true. Exact, yeah, for sure. Because it’ll be like, Okay, how can I insulate myself even more? At this point, that’s the wrong way to look at it. That’s the same thing that’s happened even you know, prior to all this stupid shit two years ago is the same thing. You saw a lot of people like how do I insulate myself more? How do I insulate myself more from the bad instead of chasing after more of the good?
Yeah, well, light gets rid of the dark. You don’t have that right, and in? Yeah, the whole code. I feel so sad for the people who spent their last year or their last two years, because some for many, many, many people COVID Or not, regardless of what they say. That was for their last two years and you spent enough frickin ‘a hold away from people you actually cared about. How sad is that? Right? I feel you on that one, man. You have to expand, you don’t contract like you don’t grow. Contracting?
Yeah. Dude, we’ve known each other for a few years, and I feel like I’m just starting to get to know you now. Which is really cool. I’m glad we’re doing this today, man.
Yeah, me too. Man. We got a big circle. And we do. I think what happens is when people are authentic and genuine, the right people will gravitate towards them. Sometimes it’s quick. Sometimes it’s not you know, but as long as it happens that’s all that matters to me.
Tell me a little bit more about this unapologetic you know cuz there was that shift in your life and that’s a theme now right that you just don’t give two shits what anybody else thinks except for the right people? Of course. How is that? Yeah. benefited? Yes.
What it is, is I want people to like, I do care if people like me and of course and approved like it’s natural, right for a human to do that. But I want them to like the real me. And and what I found is I was constantly not constantly because I’ve kind of always had that chip that edge right but it’s like I was all there was a facade you know you always you know I now now looking back at the fake it till you make it and some of this kind of stuff like I appreciate that and I and that and that has a place somewhere but it’s never as big and important as I used to make it and I feel like I would have gone a lot further a lot faster if I was more transparent about who I am and more importantly who I’m not because then you get to the right place faster, and when I kind of came to that realization, I everywhere I mean you just how many times you see me on stage I was in three piece suits and shorts and sandals. Yeah, right on Mikey. I get all mad that I’m like dude, but that’s me, and I don’t want someone to not recognize me somewhere because they’re like the speeches always had on a suit. I’m not a suit guy. I don’t have pants on right now. Right, like relax. Right?
I want to live a relaxed life and that’s just who I am and the people who want to live a relaxed life and appreciate what I appreciate and believe what I believe they gravitate you know what I mean? they gravitate towards us, and for me, I you know, I wrapped it up into that phrase, unapologetically authentic. I’m not sorry. I’m me. I care a lot and I help a ton, but I’m also going to inspire people to be exactly who they are because they’re literally quite literally the only one and to not be that person authentically. What a waste. You’re taking that badass away from somebody who was looking for that person. You know, and inspiring people to be authentic. It goes a long way and the world’s coming around to that which is nice. It’s nice to see.
It is yeah, I knew it would come back around eventually was just a curiosity of how much time it would take and everybody’s searching for the reel reel now, at least from my perspective, you know, because yeah, there’s the reel that people have been putting out there for a long time. But now it’s like how do you go deeper than that? You know, it’s not just what do you show me on the surface, but what’s actually driving you? Yeah, why are you the way that you are?
Well, so that’s what I guess what conversations are for. Yeah, right on open conversations, and sometimes there’s a lot of conversation going on. I don’t agree with a damn bit as you could probably attest, and you know what, you’re right to your opinion, like whatever I’m gonna argue with you. We can have authentic, nice, open conversations. Like, I just don’t fucking like you. Like yeah, I don’t like how you think I five have a great life. And we can say
I love it, man.
I think that’s okay. Some people don’t think that’s okay.
I know I think it’s okay. Do ya? know so much about you today and I appreciate that. Now, let’s talk about what you do because your products are sick.
Dude. dugout mugs I mean, so Randall used to pitch for the Blue Jays organization. He wasn’t quite good enough. To go all the way. So he got cut in minor leagues, but he was a professional athlete right and guys just there’s built to win in a lot of ways and they just got that. That’s DNA right? And anyway, this kid called me. Hey, I got a cool idea. A couple years ago, I was coaching at Florida Tech, his alma mater. Some were cutting baseball bats in half and the barrels were laying all over the dugout, and he picked them up, took them home, drilled him out, he thought to himself like I could drink out of that. It’s a completely random, weird, weird thought. But what a beautiful mind this this young man has and he brought that idea to fruition, one at a time belly to belly putting on a frame signs on himself and just going out to ballgames and tailgates like trying and making this work, you know, which I appreciate to like the 10th degree, right? Yeah. And, and he came in, he’s like, Dude, I have an idea and I said, Well, I got a hell of a skill set. You want to put these two things together and give it a go, and it was 2017. And he had done like, 70 70k in sales as a one man show. Imagine that. The one man band is just all one on one. Like that was this guy, and yeah, he did. Pretty good, but then I got involved and we put it up to 1.2 million that first year, and we just basically take baseball bat barrels and we hollow them out, you know, and then we engrave them with just about anything you want. Team players, we did this really sick collaboration with The Sandlot.
Yeah, these are sweet and then the director signs them all. So I mean, we’ve done oh my god, but corps Miller, Corona DraftKings, Coke, Fox, I mean, you name it. We do corporate gifting on a super high level. All the governors, the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis. He has him on his desk. We make all the VIP guests for the governor’s dinners. I think Trump’s got a mug. There’s a lot of people in a lot of places with our products. I mean, we’re, you know, anywhere between 15 and $20 million a year now in revenue, which is super cool. Just depending on where we decide to go this year with retail. We just found out that I think next week we’re going live and fanatics Kohl’s, Macy’s, Nordstroms think home goods are coming down the pipe Dick’s Sporting Goods just put us in 100 locations, and we got 300 more on the way. Yeah, it’s just wild. That’s awesome, man. A lot of people drinking out of a lot of bad mugs, man.
That’s so cool. So did you see your partner right?
Oh, yeah, Randall. He and I are going to take this thing to the finish line. We’re gonna take it a long way. What we say is we’re going to build it to sell it and then we’ll decide if we want to because it’s a lot of fun like every single mug you see behind me here it’s Pete Rose and Ken Griffey Jr . and Barry Larkin and Mariano Rivera and Pudge Rodriguez. These are guys that I’m golfing with, or going to events with and we’re making these custom pieces and it’s just nuts. So it’s gonna be really hard to walk away from something that is just just pumping out money and a ton of fun with almost no involvement from me anymore because we built a badass team around it Yeah. Oh, that’d be hard to walk away from but I will if the price is interesting.
Yeah, cuz. But you will. I like to be hard, but I will.
Because I know. I know where the true north is. Yeah, it’s not the money. I’m happy. Right and I can be happy with a lot of money, and I get I don’t have to teach my kids Spanish like my seven year olds learning Mandarin, and my wife’s half Mexican. So we speak Spanish around here a bit. So my daughter is gonna know three languages by the time she’s like eight, right? So I wanted to learn about Spain. Let’s go. Do you want to see what Italians like? You know Italian food on a cliff side. Let’s just go right and and and experience this world because we don’t have a lot of time, and we don’t have a lot of control of what happens to us. We can only control what we do after it happens, right? So I want to take these opportunities and just capture the shit out of them, and I can do that with a lot of money. You can help more people with a lot of money. You can Absa more experiences with a lot of money. Right money is not a bad thing.
Oh hell no. It’s one of the best things I always say that it’s a tool. Yeah, yeah. That’s all it is. I love that too. Because you can.
Yeah, a whole lot happier. A lot of money. Now listen, one of the other things too is money’s one of the most common things. And and so I think when people put it on a pedestal, yeah, it gets fucked up. Right like what it’s about, it means dollars yen you know Canadian dollars euros Bitcoin Litecoin. There’s what 80 or 90 Top Kryptos I mean, barter, currency is common. Right? So to make that like the goal, the destination, I think that’s backwards. I think that’s more of a result of being happy consistently and doing something that you’re good at and finding that one core competency, your power zone and just doing the hell out of it. What’s going to happen is you’re going to have fun, you’re going to be successful, you’re going to inspire other people. And then you’re going to turn around Willie and have a $30 million mug company. Right? We didn’t do this to be super wealthy, like that’s part of the deal, which is great, but we did it because we wanted to build something. I had a lifestyle by design in my head that I wanted to bring to fruition and we did it by hanging out with cool people doing something fun. Our due diligence in our like, r&d is just baseball games and breweries and stuff like that. That doesn’t suck. You know, so you know what I mean? Like money is super cool, but I think it’s actually a result of doing consistently good things that are in your core competency right? You know what I mean.
Yeah, the only time I’ve ever had money will be times I should say because we’ve all had multiples right? The only times I’ve ever had if you want to call them money issues, you know or it’s been things have been tight is when I’ve actually been focused on the money itself.
Yeah, yeah, you make decisions that way. Sometimes you do close to it, because you’re like, well, this will make more money. It’s like that’s the result. Like the reason there’s money problems because she did it over a year ago.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You can’t go back in time and fix that. I think what you do now is something brand new. I do not focus on the money and the money always comes because it’s everywhere.
It really is because it’s everywhere. It really is. Yeah, we just printed up 3 trillion more than even attached to anything. Yeah. We don’t have enough. We don’t have to just make more. Just give it
Just give it away. We got trees. That means we got money.
Writing on toilet paper, if you can find that on the shelves. Yeah,
Yeah, no kidding. Oh, Lord, dude, I appreciated our conversation. A man just said, Thank you so much for coming on, and thanks for your night. Dude. I can’t wait to see this thing blow up even more. You know, and I’m even thinking like some all in mugs right now. That’s what’s going on.
Totally. Yeah, totally. We just did. We just did a few other Adam Tay we did some for Taylor. We did some epic cigars mocking when it was moving right now. Yeah, do corporate gifting. That’s our jam. We have a lot of fun with that new we make some really badass stuff. So shoot me over your logo. I’ll send you one all customized with your name and everything on it.
Sweet brother. That’s awesome. Where can everyone find you or DugOut Mugs?
Dugout mugs, the actual mugs you can find in all 50 states, all 30 stadiums and actually seven countries now which is kind of sweet. But dugout mugs are calm. Any social media you’ll find us we’re the only one we’re the biggest. We’re the best, and as far as I’m concerned because what’s cool is dugout mugs is what I do, it’s not who I am, which is kind of fun, right? So there’s all kinds of things that I’m tied into from an interest standpoint are, you know, philanthropy and all this other so you can find me at LinkedIn just look up my name on the over and hear the other one.
Dude, you’re amazing. Thanks.
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