A Woman’s Rise in the Tech Industry | Shayra Melo

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Episode Topics:

• Hear Shyra Melo’s inspiring journey in the tech industry.
• Gain insights into the world of blockchain and AI.
• Learn about the challenges of navigating the tech world as a woman.
• Discover the story behind a company’s journey to public listing.
• Get motivated by Shyra’s innovative approach and success.

 

Rick Jordan  

Hey, what’s shakin, hey, I’m Rick Jordan today. We’re going all in. All right today I’m so pumped because we have a guest in studio guest in the guest studio in studio guest. And this is someone I’ve known for a little while. She’s amazingly brilliant, and amazingly beautiful and just is doing a lot of cool things in the world of AI and blockchain. So listen up, turn up your volume and everything here because welcome for me. SJ Ira Melo, what’s up?

 

Shayra Melo  

Thank you. Hey, what’s going on? What’s

 

Rick Jordan  

shakin,

 

Shayra Melo  

yes, they can all be in. All in team all in Podcast. I am here.

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah, you are? Yeah, this is awesome. So you’re here. You’re actually here in Chicago. We’ve talked about doing this for a while, right? And we were looking at doing it remotely. But you’re here because as a company as CEO, a friend of both of ours and a company you’re involved with called Laconia that literally just went public this morning. That’s That’s fantastic. Yeah. So at this time, it’s probably like a couple of weeks ago, this morning while you’re here. They just went public today on the Chicago Board of Trade. Absolutely. Yes. Amazing.

 

Shayra Melo  

And tomorrow, we’re going to be ringing the bell, and I’ll be on stage ringing the bell with them. That’s a

 

Rick Jordan  

first How does it feel real being up on stage with the bell ringing? Oh,

 

Shayra Melo  

I mean, it’s it’s surreal. Right? It’s it’s an American dream and all sorts. You know, I think that the reality is, is that only a select few companies end up doing that. But the hard work that goes into the journey that goes into it. Yeah, is a lot more difficult than from like, what the picture is so definitely happy. But there’s a lot of work to do right after

 

Rick Jordan  

this. For sure. I mean, well, you know, my company has reached out and we just went public a couple of months ago on OTC. But what you’re saying is so cool to me, because it’s like, you come into the office. And it’s like, it looks and functions just like any other office just like any other cybersecurity office. I mean, we got a bit of cooler of a vibe here. You know, for real, like the most IT companies, you know, got

 

Shayra Melo  

the music playing and all the rooms everything’s synced. Yeah, sure.

 

Rick Jordan  

But it’s, it’s it’s the everyday stuff that so many don’t have the visibility into. And I say so many don’t see, because it’s not, it’s not that they don’t see it, they probably would love to see it. But you’ll start to see it as well. Like some of the comments about the stock and the direction of the company and all that. And it’s, there’s, there’s, of course, negative things it’ll be said, but there’s also positive things it’ll be said. And, generally speaking, that’s like a barrier of visibility. You know, so I’m excited for you tomorrow, capture as much as you can on photos and video. And then afterward, it’s like, you’re gonna think it’s a surreal experience. I’m sure it’s just like getting married. Right? Yeah, it’s like we’re that Daigo?

 

Shayra Melo  

Right? It was so quick. But yeah, so impactful for that. Yeah.

 

Rick Jordan  

Or like when your daughter was born, right? It’s like, Oh, my God, those days are gone already. Right?

 

Shayra Melo  

No. And it’s it goes so quickly, right? And so everything after that is just like catalyzing so fast. But you’re right, the visibility into certain scenarios or into the companies. It’s not really visible from that point of view like you don’t realize what’s going on in the backend or anything like that. So I think that this is definitely the moment for that. Yeah.

 

Rick Jordan  

You mentioned some scary stories, right? Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

 

Shayra Melo  

And for you to share, be sharing these stories, too, because like, I think so many people want to hear what it is to be running a public company. And it’s like, okay, great. Like, how do we even get to that first stepping stone? Ya know, a

 

Rick Jordan  

lot of it’s, I mean, for what you’re listening, for everyone listening, a lot of it’s actually the same like it’s the same day in and day out. It’s almost kind of surreal. It’s like, oh, yeah, we have stock that’s trading. Yeah. And it’s, uh, it’s been just three months ago, well, actually, even like prior to today, with the company, you’re involved with Ocotea. It’s like you didn’t have that prior to today. And now it’s, it’s there. And it’s just something that takes a little bit to sink in. Because you’re still just going to know you as I do, you’re still just going to push forward, you’re still just going to execute the plan. You know, it’s almost like, yeah, the stock price matters. But at the same time, what matters even more, so it’s almost like the price becomes kind of a symptom of what you’re doing in the execution of your plan and your vision. Absolutely,

 

Shayra Melo  

definitely. It does. Because, I mean, even most companies like to stay private for reasons. So they don’t have to have that quality of looking at that price or the ticker, right? And I think that you know, with that being kind of like in front of mind, now, it doesn’t really change anything, you know, because, personally, for me, it’s always been about 200% growth. And 200% growth was already top of mind for me every single time. So this is just, this is just like a hey, by the way, you can see it.

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah, that’s interesting. You say that because I also want to dive into you a little bit too, because you said something about the American Dream, which you’re Colombian, which is pretty awesome. Um, because I want to talk about that a bit. While you’re talking about the 200% growth, though, I don’t want to skip over that. Because that’s a lot of people like dream of that, you know, if it’s an entrepreneur, which you have been there, I’ve been there to where it’s like, we’re going to start up mode. It’s like, we’re so grateful that we just took in $30,000 in revenue over the last six months. Whoo, we’re actually making something. But then it’s like, 200%, gross, sure, that becomes 60, then if it’s another 200, then that becomes 120, you know, and continuously doubles. But how long? Do you think that something like that is sustainable?

 

Shayra Melo  

I mean, I believe it’s really sustainable. I don’t think that I mean, you can see with Apple right now you can see it with companies that are just, you know, progressively growing. I mean, Mehta. Yeah. It’s like, it’s, it’s, it’s right there, as long as you can continue to understand, hey, how do we really refine within the culture within the company, and then also align that with the financial goals? I think that that’s really healthy growth. Obviously, having the tech is super important in understanding what that merge looks like, for for the revenue and all of that, and you know, that yourself. So? Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s definitely sustainable. But it’s difficult. Yeah,

 

Rick Jordan  

for sure. I think of, I think of like, in the future, because Reach out is doing eight figures in revenue, you know, and it’s like, okay, if you take, if you take hypothetically 20 million and double that, you know, going to 40 million in revenue, I’m not talking market cap, right, with the if you go from 20 to 40, that’s, that’s a big jump if you go from 40 to 80. That’s an even bigger jump, you know, so it’s like the 200% growth as I look out, it’s like, I don’t know, you know, because it’s like the, the industries if you’re listening, it’s like SAS platforms, any kind of tech company is typically considered successful with a rule of 40, or rule of 50. I’m sure you know, this, right? It’s like gross margin percentage plus revenue, gain percentage, if it equals 40, you’re good. If it equals 50, you’re doing really, really good. Right? Right.

 

Shayra Melo  

Well, I think that you know, you know, when our VC backed us, and when we were going through that process, I really started to understand, hey, what makes a unicorn company, what really brings that valuation to what it needs to be? And I think that SAS platforms are there. There’s this like dance, right? Because I’m not really a big fan of SAS platform spawning. So it’s just the reality, right? Like, we want to own software, and you can own it. And I just, I think that’s kind of coming back into a trend or into a phase of what software can be. But I think that when we talked to our VC, he really gave me an insight into what 200% growth or what a unicorn company looks like. And so I really took that engrained into the process for revenue for our entire productivity. Yeah. And so yeah, that’s, it’s just a mantra that I go through. That’s cool.

 

Rick Jordan  

I did that. Alright, I’m gonna go back to the American Dream thing. All right, because you’re Colombian, right? Yeah. I don’t think I’ve ever asked you this. American, Colombian, American Colombian. So you’re born here. Born here. Oh, cool. That’s awesome. Yeah. Your family came over here, then first generation, first generation. Nice. How did that go for them? Oh, what did that look like? Yeah,

 

Shayra Melo  

it was so difficult. It was it was really difficult growing up. Yeah. I mean, for the most part, you know, my grandmother came here first. And then all the sisters of daughters started to come in. My auntie came with her. And then my mom was like, kind of like forced through sisters just like not your coming years. The VR guys. So yeah, it was it was really difficult. I mean, buying a house, my mom was a homeowner. And, you know, she did it on her own. And she’s, she’s really like, show me like, what it is to be a powerful woman. And also the women in my family are super, super powerful. And I’m so grateful for them and what they’ve done and what my mom’s been able to, you know, provide for me, it’s here,

 

Rick Jordan  

and you’re a woman in tech too awesome. That’s, I mean, it’s still a minority. You know, I think ties are starting to shift a little bit, which I love, right? It’s still still a minority. But it’s awesome to see that, you know, and you’re what 27 Yeah, 27 years. I got that. Right. That’s to be that right. And to be part of a company that’s going public is just frickin fantastic. Yeah, so, you’re a badass. Where did you when everybody because you said your grandma moved over here, right? And she was the one who emigrated. That’s interesting because mine did too. You know, she came over, from Wales, you know, which was very interesting to me. So it’s like, I go all the way back to England and all of that, not Columbia. I mean, clearly, it’s like, not exotic. I’m just glad I had good teeth when my family came from Great Britain. You know, that’s a common theme over there. Yeah, exactly. I’m like, Thank God, I got this. I’m cool. When she came over, where did they end up living at first, What city did they end up landing in?

 

Shayra Melo  

Yeah, that’s a good. I think they Yeah, they moved immediately to they had family in New York. Do you have like a husband in New York? And then that’s American husband? No, he was. It was like her husband lived here in the US. Okay. And he was Colombian. And so he had moved here. So she moved from love, basically. Oh,

 

Rick Jordan  

yeah. That’s awesome. I don’t hear too many of those awesome love stories anymore. Do we? No, no, no. That’s so cool. So from New York, did they just stay there? They went.

 

Shayra Melo  

So he was living so their family was living in New York, and then they had moved down to Tampa. Okay, so yeah, there they Yeah, that’s, that’s

 

Rick Jordan  

Florida. Yeah, exactly. Right on. It’s a good place. I like it. Yeah. Yeah, Florida

 

Shayra Melo  

is great. I mean, you know, it’s not the most like biggest tech scene out there. Especially in Tampa Bay, Florida. It’s starting to grow by you know, compared to, you know, Palo Alto or, you know, bigger cities like Chicago. Even. So it’s it’s definitely growing. But it’s, it’s a little bit more, a little bit more harder.

 

Rick Jordan  

That’s cool. That’s awesome. Now, from a tech perspective, you know, because I know you. I mean, just like all of us, right? We’ve had different jobs. It’s like, I started at McDonald’s, you know, all of that. But when did you start getting into tech?

 

Shayra Melo  

Well, I started getting into tech in 2018, with decentralized technologies, and investing in them. So that’s, that’s when I started doing it. Yeah.

 

Rick Jordan  

I mean, in essence, like blockchain, if we could call that a decentralized technology, it is. Yeah, it is.

 

Shayra Melo  

Yeah.

 

Rick Jordan  

Did you ever get into the NFT space? License? This is totally an aside because nowadays, they’re just not worth anything. But anyway, going back to that 2018, decentralized tech. Everybody at that point and still to this day, is kind of confused about blockchain and crypto. Yeah, you know, as if they’re like the same thing where it’s like blockchain is really the tech that’s kind of behind crypto crypto just happens to be like this layer of monetization on top of blockchain, just like anything else can be monetization on top of blockchain. Crypto is just that kind of thing. 2018 is early for all of that. I mean, Bitcoin might have been what 10 years old at that point, I think, around 10 grand right? Yeah, exactly. You know, people knew about it, but not many did. You know, it still hadn’t caught mainstream, almost next to nobody understood what actual blockchain was, you know, it was just all crypto. You know, the blockchain was sort of like the straggler behind the forgotten-about stepchild. You know, when that actually was like the that was like the firstborn, you’re the prodigal son is really what blockchain is. That’s what everything is built on. How did you be like, Oh, that looks cool? I think I’m gonna do that. Like,

 

Shayra Melo  

I always wanted to get into investing. I was I kept hearing everything on the news about this Bitcoin thing. And Bitcoin’s next financial peace. It’s like, huge, and I just kept going through all these other kinds of like the all these news channels, and they repeatedly coming up and I was like, Okay, well, let me just go look at it. I was like, like, super young.

 

Rick Jordan  

And I was 22. So you’re talking six years ago? So like, 2120 21 years old?

 

Shayra Melo  

And I was like, Okay, well, you know, maybe I’ll, you know, I’ll invest into this. This is like, super new and nascent. And yeah, I did. And that’s, that’s how I started getting into it. Somebody was like, oh, it’s never gonna grow. It’s never gonna be there. They were going to school like to be a financial advisor. Yeah. I was like, so I was trying to listen to them. And I was like, making sure it was like, maybe my checking all the boxes to see if I’m like making the right kind of financial investment. But yeah, no, yeah, I wrote it. And that’s, that’s how I figured out like tech to begin with, but from a financial perspective. So that’s, that’s how I started getting into it. And like being first generation, like, especially from South America, like, my family’s like all from there, especially my family, they are not tech orientated at all. So like, learning all of that by myself and going through that was like, Yeah, that was like, probably like the biggest shift, like just pushing past that. Yeah,

 

Rick Jordan  

that’s cool. So I mean, so you were looking at really, crypto at that point in time. Right. Right. And then when did you go deeper, you know, and how did you figure out like, oh, there’s a deeper layer to this? There’s this thing called blockchain and that’s where the magic is.

 

Shayra Melo  

Yeah, I started investing a little bit right before the crypto haze like the craziness of it. And during COVID-19,  I started diving deeper into NF T’s. I started understanding it a little bit. I think a lot of people did too. Yeah, for sure. I understood the technology, but then I took it a step further to understand the technology a lot deeper. And that’s, that was the that was the point of catalyzing versus understanding NF T’s are what was going up and down in value. I really focused on the the proposition of each chain and what they were bringing, and I was like, oh, there’s Didn’t need Yeah, the market that was like, oh, there’s a big need. No one knows about that.

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah. So you look deeper into like the Aetherium chain, the by Nance chain all of them all

 

Shayra Melo  

of that. Yeah, exactly. And then like, and then also how to like to create layer two, and then I started creating a white paper behind it. And then I met Jason Mello, who is, you know, our CTO, and he was also the founder of Paxos. So it’s like, oh, well, that that just worked out heavenly. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, that was that was just like the perfect merge. And we’re

 

Rick Jordan  

just talking about like, the love stories don’t exist anymore. But then there’s one, right, that actually got involved in tech too. That’s cool. Yeah, yeah. Everybody listening, I mean, she talks about like, he’s a third person, but it’s actually your husband too. So there’s a really brilliant dude. It doesn’t hold a candle to his wife, though. Jason brings an interesting piece of the puzzle. Yeah. Which, which is really cool. So was this like, late-night sessions with a bottle of wine as he started, like unraveling the world of blockchain for you?

 

Shayra Melo  

Kind of Yeah, no, it was super professional. We, we met and we had, like, basically, I told him, it was like, Hey, this is what I want to do. This is when I want to create. And he was like, Yeah, this is interesting. And at that point, he had like another startup that he was involved in that their unicorn company actually funny enough, is like, Hmm, I don’t know if I’m gonna leave my unicorn company for you know, startup a guy and so it was it took a lot of convincing So yeah, that that was but the vision was there. And he saw that there was a great opportunity to really create something different. So we we actually, have a privacy solution Think of it like architecture privacy vaults, but their privacy vaults the on the blockchain.

 

Rick Jordan  

Cool. So yeah, so I knew about that a bit because that’s we we’ve talked about that. Hold on as well. Weird when I drank this. Dang it Yeah, no kidding. I took I took a drink. And good God. It just wasn’t like, Oh, you’re talking when? Too fast right to the back of my throat. See me take us a while you’re talking exactly too fast. Like I pounded water like it was a shot. That far we can keep and it’s funny. So I almost share with you a spit take. Yeah. All right. Cool. Whoo. Okay, I think I’m cool. I have a cough box. You don’t have a cough box. He does that on here. Anyways, all right. Cool. Well, thanks. Alright, here we go. We’re good. Yeah. Okay. Of course, we’re good. We’re keeping going. Alright. Private Security vault. Yeah. You told me about this a little while ago, and I was so intrigued coming from the cybersecurity space. That it’s it’s interesting, can you break it down? You know, not so technical, but in like, very, very minimized terms, so that we can just follow you because it is a technical thing. It’s an extremely technical thing, but it gives a very human result to it.

 

Shayra Melo  

Yeah. So think about so the first use case that started to come out of this was an AI company that came up to us. And the AI company was like, Hey, I have an AI model. That’s got like, like 7 million database points inside of it. Like of students, it was like, it was the platform that focuses on, you know, keeping children safe. And so they had 7 million students on their database. So really sensitive information, right? Yeah, they were serving multiple states. And they were like, how can we, you know, implement the blockchain into a solution on our AI? And we’re like, yeah, you can definitely do that. And especially on our platform, because our platform, you’re able to create real-world assets, also blockchain applications on our platform where yeah, that’s originally where we started. And we were a no-code platform for that. Sorry, this thing’s coming out. And so yeah, so they came up to us, and they were like, Hey, how do we do this? And I was like, Well, you know, what do you want to get out? So they’re like, Okay, well, we have sensitive information in our database. And we don’t want it associated with the children. So like, we don’t want that at all on our database. And it’s like, great, but

 

Rick Jordan  

they still want to use AI to extract this valuable analysis of certain things. Kids, you know, like, probably how they’re doing in school. Like if there’s specific demographics, you know, if it’s kids that are like I was, I’m dumbing it down here. We’re way down, you know, not trying to minimize anything, because it’s actually bad assets. What this does, you know, like I was one of the younger kids always in my class, versus like the older kid in the class, you know, just because of where the date cutoff was, you know, I would be curious to see, it’s like, who excels more, you know, something like that just based off of if it’s like somebody who was right before the cut-off or right after the date cut off rage.

 

Shayra Melo  

Right, right. So what they do is threat detection. So they’re focused on Oh, very cool. So any kind of threat detection within the child or the school? Yeah, if there’s a mass shooting, or if the child is at threat of suicide. And so it’s really, you know, sensitive information about children. And yeah, and ultimately, you know, what they didn’t want is that information to continue, obviously, it doesn’t need right now. But what they really wanted to add this extra layer of protection and preventative cybersecurity,

 

Rick Jordan  

it’s a separation of the identifiable information from the actual anonymized data points, exactly.

 

Shayra Melo  

And so what we do is, so what we created was a synthetic data set, that’s very similar to the same data set of the child or the entire school, like the children’s school. And then what we did was put that synthetic data into the database. And then we took the actual information and put it into a private network, the private network is owned by them, they have full control, and they have access to that. And then we have a Sentinel, that’s kind of like on the outside of it. I don’t want to use the super technical term, right? So we have something that basically like covers it right on top of that to phone home if you need the real information to get that information to tap into that. So that’s, that’s what we created. And this is all full on-premise solution. And it’s data like it’s in real-time data flow.

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah. On-Premise, meaning not in the cloud. It’s localized, which is interesting, because it’s everybody. I mean, there’s always been a push to the cloud for the last decade, right? But then at the same time, when your data is stored locally, that’s like one of the most secure frickin things that you ever could possibly have. You know, because it doesn’t go anywhere. It literally doesn’t go anywhere. That’s cool. Your earpiece is bothering you? Yeah, it is.

 

Shayra Melo  

Yeah, like coming out. You’re

 

Rick Jordan  

good. Yeah. I have weird ears.

 

Shayra Melo  

Let me be a little ears here.

 

Rick Jordan  

Was that it? Like for real? Is that like a tree? I don’t know. No, I’m just joking. I was wondering how they’ll look when I see people on TV. It’s like, sometimes there’s these guys who have like, the tiniest little ears. But then there are also these ones that end up being super huge, like, what ethnicity are they? Because I mean, everybody, you know, but it’s like, if I’m looking at two white guys, you know, it’s like, what’s the difference? Why did this guy have Dumbo ears? And then this one has like these little tiny things? We’re solid now. Yeah, curiosities that I have. Naturally.

 

Shayra Melo  

Now you guys have a little personal insight into Rick Jordan.

 

Rick Jordan  

But, yeah, so the privacy ball, we should keep some of this. And that’s kind of fun. Yeah. Just a rant. Yeah, right. Good. Good. I’m glad we’re keeping some of this in. I mean, we were talking about the cloud and how still the most secure thing is having something that tech term is on-premise. Right? You know, which means Hey, it’s right. Right here. You keep it there. There’s a there of course limitations to that, too. Yeah. You know, because there’s no accessibility to even other systems that might need that, you know, except, I think what you’re saying is that you stopped me where I’m wrong because I don’t think we got this deep before you almost act as a kind of like a traffic cop almost like a gatekeeper to the, to the real data. You know, so it’s like, it sounds like you take a copy of the real data, sort of anonymize it, you know, make it a synthetic form that is similar but not exact, right? And then that’s what’s pushed out to the AI model. So you can learn and do the analysis and, and get the, just the, the points you need to accomplish whatever outcome you’re looking for. And those individuals are not even those individuals, but the individuals that kids, they’re completely safe because there’s no identical identifiable information whatsoever. But on the other side of it, somebody who might need to see that like the child’s parent. Right? So they can have access to the AI model, but then you’re the traffic cop that says, hey, only let this person in. Yeah. That’s cool. All

 

Shayra Melo  

right. And downloadable. So yeah, download that software to yeah, there’s no, there’s no developers needed to do a manual process to implement the software on top of that, so we’re totally zero trust model.

 

Rick Jordan  

That’s brilliant. So I think I broke that down pretty well. Deeper. Wow. Okay, so If you’re live, I mean, DMS, whatever if you have questions, but it’s it’s really cool tech, you know, and it’s something that can keep kids safe. I can see other others. I mean, a lot of other uses. Yeah, FinTech for sure. Health care,

 

Shayra Melo  

you know, so right now we’re going after Health Tech, health tech companies, health tech companies that are focused on AI helps up companies that are just health tech companies systems, right? Yeah. And then also FinTech companies are focused on different industries inside of their payment processing system. Are we up to like credit card acceptance, and all of that? So yeah, there’s, those are completely different industries, but they all have the same kind of responsibility, you’re come some kind of compliance, responsibility. And that’s, that’s the ICP, I guess.

 

Rick Jordan  

That’s cool. I can’t help but notice that it’s only been six years since you first were like, Hey, there’s this fun thing called Bitcoin that’s out there to now it’s like tomorrow, you’re going to be standing on the stage at Chicago Board of Trade is part of a company that’s going public, in an AI company, you know, and I know some of the cool things you’re doing with them. Still, though, that’s a very, very short period of time, you know, and it’s, that’s one of the things I admire, is I don’t think you ever lost sight of where you want it to be. Like, as soon as you got it. And this is something I talk about all the time. I’m going to talk you up here for a little bit because I think you have a natural curiosity, is that I mean, that’s the only thing that I can describe otherwise. I mean, where where else could it have been? I mean, how in the world were you like, yeah, bitcoins cool to just six years later, being like, Oh, hey, you know, tomorrow, I’m gonna stand on the stage and ring the bell. Yeah,

 

Shayra Melo  

I mean, it wasn’t, it wasn’t out of luck. You know, I mean, people say, you know, look, as a big part of it, but no, it’s not an overnight success, either. Six years is still six years. Right. And that’s like, prior to entrepreneurship that I had been trying before. Right. Yeah. So it’s, it’s not an overnight thing where I just got into business. And it was just like, okay, cool. Like, this is what it is? No. You know, I think the biggest thing for me has been the curiosity, the curiosity to put myself in the right rooms, hey, ask the right questions, and then continuously put myself around music people, right, and making sure that I add value to every single piece that I’m going into, you know, like, it’s not a facade, right. Some people will go out there. And they have, they claim tech, and they really don’t have it. And so like, this is the difference between professionals. And facade. Yeah. And so that’s, that’s really what I, that’s what I bring down, hands down. 10 toes down.

 

Rick Jordan  

It’s my first time ever. Yeah, that’s phenomenal. I mean, to be a Colombian American and just get to this point. It’s, it’s, it’s truly inspirational. And it’s yes, it’s it’s a short period of time, but at the same time, it’s like you feel it’s long, I can relate to that, because it’s the same thing, right? That it’s like back for when reached out finally hit, you know, seven figures was only six years ago. So the going public process took almost four years, to go through all the stages that we needed to go through. And you’ve

 

Shayra Melo  

been saying it out loud every single time, every single time you’ve been on stage, you’ve been saying that. We’re a public company, we’re going to be public, consistently, just being that and just showing that it just shows where you are right now. Yep. But it does feel like a long time, right?

 

Rick Jordan  

It does. Yes, it is a long time. For sure. I don’t think this is new. I mean, even on your IG bio, it says building a public company. It’s the same thing that’s been up there way before, way before the Codea was public. Yeah, you know, which is awesome. So it’s, it’s, I hope everybody’s catching this. Because it’s like you mentally step into where you know, you’re going to get to and the only way that you can know you’re going to get to is to actually mentally step in. Exactly. It’s the anchor point.

 

Shayra Melo  

Every single mindset coach will tell you the same thing Yeah, the same thing that you’re saying right now. It’s just always put it there. They keep saying it, right, these continual rituals that you’re doing for yourself. And it’s not the only thing, obviously. But that’s, that’s a big string there.

 

Rick Jordan  

Yeah, right on. I love it. But everybody can find you. I mean, I know Instagram, right? chakra. me. Yeah, right. Where else can they go to

 

Shayra Melo  

touch base with you? Yeah, you can. You can either email me at gyro at touch park.com. Or you can find me on or you can go on our website at touch for.com as well.

 

Rick Jordan  

Awesome. Go there. Check it out. There’s some cool stuff there. But then listen to this again and send it to at least three people because we just broke it down today for you. You gotta get to know this girl. She’s awesome. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for being on.

 

Shayra Melo  

Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. You bet.